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Pattern Jammin January 2024

Webberweather53 said:
Mid-January is a good pattern for southern Canada, the Midwest, & Great Lakes. Perhaps the interior NE US as well. I wouldn’t expect much out of this, even in the coastal mid Atlantic, let alone down here over the SE US
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That's a good set up scenario for us in the Southeast to round off January.
 
Mitch West said:
Well, at least we aren't trending in the wrong direction in the medium range. Lol

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Completely wrong direction imo. Aleutian and Alaskan ridge, western trough makes for good western cold and skiing. We warm with an Atlantic ridge (WAR). Not even sure that is really an -NAO either verbatim ??

On the bright side, the PV is on our side of the globe still and Canada should get cold. Hopefully the good pacific looks we've been getting on the GEFS ext and the weeklies will come into view on the ensembles next week.

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SnowNiner said:
Completely wrong direction imo. Aleutian and Alaskan ridge, western trough makes for good western cold and skiing. We warm with an Atlantic ridge (WAR). Not even sure that is really an -NAO either verbatim ??

On the bright side, the PV is on our side of the globe still and Canada should get cold. Hopefully the good pacific looks we've been getting on the GEFS ext and the weeklies will come into view on the ensembles next week.

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Oh I was being sarcastic man. I meant we are trending in the wrong direction but at least it's not in the medium range & it's in the long range haha
 
SnowNiner said:
Completely wrong direction imo. Aleutian and Alaskan ridge, western trough makes for good western cold and skiing. We warm with an Atlantic ridge (WAR). Not even sure that is really an -NAO either verbatim ??

On the bright side, the PV is on our side of the globe still and Canada should get cold. Hopefully the good pacific looks we've been getting on the GEFS ext and the weeklies will come into view on the ensembles next week.

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It’s been said like 27 times by Webber, that he sees the West trough and it hits first putting down snowpack in the plains, then the SE will be in the hunt after that. So it’s right where it’s supposed to be
 
Tarheel1 said:
It’s been said like 27 times by Webber, that he sees the West trough and it hits first putting down snowpack in the plains, then the SE will be in the hunt after that. So it’s right where it’s supposed to be
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47. And what ensures the snow pack stays in place once it is finally laid down? Chasing Midwestern snow cover for 2 months only to have the mjo or some other index send a ridge through the country deleting all of it doesn't seem like such a long shot to me. I mean, if there's some reason to expect the high likelihood of snow cover remaining in place from VA to TN to AR and north once it finally shows up, then let's go.
 
J.C. said:
Yeah, FFC doesn't care about that. You look over at GSP and they have observations at the top of Caesars Head, Mitchell, etc. FFC doesn't even record data for Marietta, its a joke. Blairsville is the only station with any substantial data, and I doubt the snowfall data is that accurate at 3.1" If I had to guess about Brasstown Bald based on observation (they have Axis Cameras up there), my best guess is 15-18" per year at 4700'. Quite honestly, the Cohutta's at 2500' to 4' probably do about as good. The Cohutta's are the mountains just east of Dalton, they actually get northwest flow because they sit about 2-3000' above the valley below. I would bet on them at least getting a dusting Saturday morning.
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I didn't even know about them. NW flow can be awesome!
 
Rain Cold said:
47. And what ensures the snow pack stays in place once it is finally laid down? Chasing Midwestern snow cover for 2 months only to have the mjo or some other index send a ridge through the country deleting all of it doesn't seem like such a long shot to me. I mean, if there's some reason to expect the high likelihood of snow cover remaining in place from VA to TN to AR and north once it finally shows up, then let's go.
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Even in the midwest, snow rarely stays on the ground for very long unless you're far north !
 
Snowlover87 said:
Even in the midwest, snow rarely stays on the ground for very long unless you're far north !
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It will probably hang around extra long this winter, since that's what it takes to get snow around here in this part of the world. By late Jan, we should be good.
 
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