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Pattern Flaming Feb 2021

Avalanche said:
I remember the morning, but Im surprised bc I dont recollect snow. But, I cant argue the fact. Good find!!!
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Day before the blast had 67/15 with 1.5 inches in Sanford . Probably falling overnight ! Frontal snow. Not much of a snowpack though I’m not sure how much depth affects things vs just having cover . Sanford dropped to -3 only it looks vs -9 at RDU.
 
Lickwx said:
RDU airport had 2 inches according to now data. Just checked Sanford it had 1.5 inches. I’m still curious as to what the absolute coldest low with no snow cover is .
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Charlotte got down to -5 with the 1985 outbreak with no snow on the ground. The dusting that fell as the Arctic front came through had evaporated by the that night
 
Lickwx said:
Reread what I said bro, snowpack ! I’m wondering what the coldest temps can get without a snowpack are . I’m a climo data machine ik when we hit single digits trust me lol. Perhaps @SD knows .

Any examples of it being in the single digits with 0 snow on the ground ? 2015,2014,2018,2000, 1985 etc all had snow on the ground if I’m not mistaken with the record lows . Genuinely curious , would take a bit of digging to find out .
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Partially true. Jan 2018 No snow here in the western piedmont, and had several nights in the single digits.
 
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Lickwx said:
Reread what I said bro, snowpack ! I’m wondering what the coldest temps can get without a snowpack are . I’m a climo data machine ik when we hit single digits trust me lol. Perhaps @SD knows .

Any examples of it being in the single digits with 0 snow on the ground ? 2015,2014,2018,2000, 1985 etc all had snow on the ground if I’m not mistaken with the record lows . Genuinely curious , would take a bit of digging to find out .
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I was Down East in 1985. No snowpack If I remember correctly. The sounds froze over though
 
Coldest temp I’ve ever seen in my life was my pops birthday in 1982. January 17. -27° F. Windchill was -44°. Threw hot water in the air and it froze and fell as snow. School was closed for four days because the boiler and furnace crapped the bed and every pipe in school froze and burst. Our hockey team could have skated through the entire school. Not only do I remember a block heater on the Grand Waggoner being plugged in, but he had a space heater under the hood and inside the cabin as well. He went to work in Iron Mountain and was sent home because they couldn’t work on the ELF transceiver antenna’s for the Navy because of the danger of frostbite.
 
Lickwx said:
Idk it looks pretty stout , I’d bet on 15 degrees , anything under that will take a stronger push or a snowpack. Single digits will 100% require a snowpack. Honestly I have to wonder what the absolute coldest we can get without a snowpack is. Cant be much colder than 15. All our record lows happen with a snowpack .
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I don’t think RDU’s all time record low of -9 came with any snow on the ground, though I may be mistaken.

Then again, things were different back in the 80s and setups from the 80s just don’t work like they use to, etc etc etc. ?

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Single digits are absolutely possible to reach in the NC Piedmont without snowcover. It certainly makes it easier, but it can and has happened.

For example, I can’t imagine GSO’s trace of snow a few days earlier was doing much good with this 2018 cold blast. Even RDU’s ~1” probably wasn’t left much, if at all, by then. The colder subzero temperatures in the northern coastal plan and SW of Raleigh were snowcover-aided, though. Nevertheless, we even see subzero temperatures north of the Triad with no snowcover.

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superjames1992 said:
I don’t think RDU’s all time record low of -9 came with any snow on the ground, though I may be mistaken.

Then again, things were different back in the 80s and setups from the 80s just don’t work like they use to, etc etc etc. ?

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The 80s werent as stellar as yall think. Few events, but just as long priods of meh as we have today. I still say for NC 2000-2010 was better
 
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