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The weeklies aren't ideal but I don't think they are a disaster

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he is quoting

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Good - Jon knows his stuff and I am encouraging him over here!

(he's also a friend so I wanted to make sure someone wasn't covering!)
 
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I'm just now skimming through the weeklies now, their not bad at all. I like to come up with predictions 2 weeks in advanced. But even then, the models start to lose skill. It gives us a rough idea. I'm conservative about the weeklies beyond 2 weeks. The surface maps are interesting, specially 7th-14th.

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1) I have seen no indication or his Twitter that JB is getting ready to o throw in the towel. Is this for real? Is he saying this to WxBell subscribers?
2) Euro weeklies: Keep in mind that week 3 starts way out there with day 19 in the Thu run. Just how dependable do people think what basically is an EPS mean for days 19-25 is going to be? Verifications are all over the place. Sometimes it is good but often is is a total miss. And that's just week 3. I'm not even going to talk about weeks 4-6 lol!
By the way fwiw ( little), the 850's are near normal....no torch be any means. Also, yes the two meter temps are 2-3 F above normal. But keep in mind the Euro has a bit of a warm bias.
 
1) I have seen no indication or his Twitter that JB is getting ready to o throw in the towel. Is this for real? Is he saying this to WxBell subscribers?
2) Euro weeklies: Keep in mind that week 3 starts way out there with day 19 in the Thu run. Just how dependable do people think what basically is an EPS mean for days 19-25 is going to be? Verifications are all over the place. Sometimes it is good but often is is a total miss. And that's just week 3. I'm not even going to talk about weeks 4-6 lol!
By the way fwiw ( little), the 850's are near normal....no torch be any means. Also, yes the two meter temps are 2-3 F above normal. But keep in mind the Euro has a bit of a warm bias.

Leave it to Larry to bring calm to the unrest! LOL!


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1) I have seen no indication or his Twitter that JB is getting ready to o throw in the towel. Is this for real? Is he saying this to WxBell subscribers?
2) Euro weeklies: Keep in mind that week 3 starts way out there with day 19 in the Thu run. Just how dependable do people think what basically is an EPS mean for days 19-25 is going to be? Verifications are all over the place. Sometimes it is good but often is is a total miss. And that's just week 3. I'm not even going to talk about weeks 4-6 lol!
By the way fwiw ( little), the 850's are near normal....no torch be any means. Also, yes the two meter temps are 2-3 F above normal. But keep in mind the Euro has a bit of a warm bias.
Thank you!
 
1) I have seen no indication or his Twitter that JB is getting ready to o throw in the towel. Is this for real? Is he saying this to WxBell subscribers?
2) Euro weeklies: Keep in mind that week 3 starts way out there with day 19 in the Thu run. Just how dependable do people think what basically is an EPS mean for days 19-25 is going to be? Verifications are all over the place. Sometimes it is good but often is is a total miss. And that's just week 3. I'm not even going to talk about weeks 4-6 lol!
By the way fwiw ( little), the 850's are near normal....no torch be any means. Also, yes the two meter temps are 2-3 F above normal. But keep in mind the Euro has a bit of a warm bias.
he said he is worried , rattled I believe was the word. When he gets concerned after going all in its serious , for him .

of course he went crazy cold for Feb. There is Zero chance his February forecast verifies.

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FWIW - Here's a copy of 1 page from DT's winter forecast published back in the fall - he may a have time machine LOL

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Leave it to Larry to bring calm to the unrest! LOL!


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Hehe, I figured I needed to after saying I was optimistic about the weeklies because they were based on the nice looking 0Z EPS. So much for that idea but again they're not really bad either.
 
1) I have seen no indication or his Twitter that JB is getting ready to o throw in the towel. Is this for real? Is he saying this to WxBell subscribers?
2) Euro weeklies: Keep in mind that week 3 starts way out there with day 19 in the Thu run. Just how dependable do people think what basically is an EPS mean for days 19-25 is going to be? Verifications are all over the place. Sometimes it is good but often is is a total miss. And that's just week 3. I'm not even going to talk about weeks 4-6 lol!
By the way fwiw ( little), the 850's are near normal....no torch be any means. Also, yes the two meter temps are 2-3 F above normal. But keep in mind the Euro has a bit of a warm bias.
Larry, He said if Euro MJO and weeklies were right? His forecast was in trouble.... But he's not changing his thoughts yet, he wanted to see this for a few days. said may be different tomorrow. I think he said it kinda didn't make sense with it self? I think I got this right. lol. He's concerned about the look on the JMA also....

I have not yet changed my ideas as I wish to watch this for a while, as up through the first 10 days of February , the ideas that have gotten us here have had merit. But I did not see this coming as all the things I have been showing you, suggested that the seasonal variation which usually argues for the trough further east would carry the day. The Euro says no ( it does try to bring it back in March) but the warmer idea its implying here would break the back of winter, and my forecast.



So I have alot of work in front of me, since the work in back of me, if this is right, is for naught once past Feb 10. I am not changing my ideas, I am saying to you I see all this that is plainly different from what I believe.
 
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I'm curious why models and ensembles haven't adjusted to this ssw event that's underway from my understanding? Just curious
so they very well could be . A ssw does not always mean favorable results by any stretch. Realistically a ssw could cause HORRIBLE downstream results for the US

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In fact, I described one option with the PV that would effectively wrap it up on winter if it happened.
 
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