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Pattern February 2024

GFS is totally different at day 10 compared to the Canadian & Euro. Cold air placement is not in position on the GFS. Trough placement is not where we need it.
 
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If we could get that cold air in sooner at HR 258 on the GFS that would be a nice hit for the Mid-South with that low placement.
 
The GFS might be setting up something behind the initial storm too.
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The CMC was headed for a winter storm - baggy southern stream on top of Mexico, and a really good cold feed from the Atlantic trough, really nice winter storm setup, like the ens hint at 37D4F2A7-9D1F-4ED5-8F20-05F3EEB5E2CA.png
GFS oth dumps the TPV and slows it around the lakes, hence the cutter, need that farther out ahead or peiced together with the Atlantic trough 5B201BA4-4C0E-44B7-BBCB-B81987B53CDD.png
CMC is the exact progression you want as was likely headed for a big time winter storm across the SE, this time period (the first one of interest) holds potential for a SE winter storm imo
 
The CMC was headed for a winter storm - baggy southern stream on top of Mexico, and a really good cold feed from the Atlantic trough, really nice winter storm setup, like the ens hint at View attachment 145553
GFS oth dumps the TPV and slows it around the lakes, hence the cutter, need that farther out ahead or peiced together with the Atlantic trough View attachment 145550
CMC is the exact progression you want as was likely headed for a big time winter storm across the SE, this time period (the first one of interest) holds potential for a SE winter storm imo

Dang thats impressive...GFS/CMC both agree on dropping a legit cold HP into the conus.

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Dang thats impressive...GFS/CMC both agree on dropping a legit cold HP into the conus.

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Yeah, I’d say what could really go wrong is doing what we did in January, or basically the OP GFS, dumping the TPV in a inadequate location. we need to keep that area around the lakes with some sort of ridge trailing the big Atlantic trough, this setup with the southern stream has boom potential, it’s not high amped but it’s a huge subtropical trough under a strong subtropical jet stream. It’s gonna be juiced. The signal on the ensembles is there for a juiced up system, we just need to time the 50/50 low right and not have any sort of energy dumping around the lakes/northern plains otherwise it ruins the cold feed and high pressure. Lots of time though. All we can hope is ensembles continue to show what they show and OP runs start showing something
 
This look from last nights EPS is close to the Miller B winter storm composite for NC, big 50/50 low, the area around the lakes is clean from any big TPV lobe with some ridging near the lakes which encourages descent —> high pressure , and a low amplitude southern stream wave/baggy trough progressing east, want to see this look show up more and more, and keep clean of anything around the lakes 30BD1945-4B63-48B1-8065-4F601A804F94.jpeg
 
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