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Pattern Failboat February

Seems like all models dropped the TPV further south which dropped and height field and induced a better cold feed, but something I’m starting to see as an issue is the wave itself and how it progresses. Can’t have a big bowling ball in the OH valley, rather have the south stream be more alone or at least a weaker N/S/stronger S/S wave.
 
To me, these runs tonight lend credence that someone in climo favored areas in NC is going to get smoked. As much as I don’t believe the southern hits, I like to see them. I do believe this is a step down system so a hit well south of DC makes sense to me. How far south though? Time will tell
 
Upon further inspection, GEFS wasn’t great but it wasn’t nothing

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What do you mean losing attitude? Is it trending south?


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Key word is latitude.

I say with a bit of an attitude. But I’d be a hypocrite if I claimed I’ve never misread something before. 😉

Yes. South. As well as dying/shearing out.
 
Not really taking it too seriously right now, but I think the energy that could play in for a long duration overrunning event is probably still there on the 6z GFS near the 20th, but ends up buried.
 
Models have really went gangbusters with the Arctic block moving South and connecting with the West coast ridge. That action keeps pushing the initial PV further south and east. Lays the foundation for a southern storm track. After that, it will all depend on how the pacific wave interacts with any trailing polar lobe to determine what happens. The 00z GFS was close to a best case scenario for that interaction I think.
 
That is what we said about the NOLA and Florida storm. To an extent, suppression is not great lol

Anytime we get a big cold press this is possible. If HP is gonna be that strong…. The low is gonna have to be stronger to get up n over it, some little 1005- 1017 Loser isn’t gonna cut it.


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Models have really went gangbusters with the Arctic block moving South and connecting with the West coast ridge. That action keeps pushing the initial PV further south and east. Lays the foundation for a southern storm track. After that, it will all depend on how the pacific wave interacts with any trailing polar lobe to determine what happens. The 00z GFS was close to a best case scenario for that interaction I think.
What u going get. Worried about. It being over amped …. Is going be suppression city. Rather see an over amped storm any day , especially for my location . And for most on this board. Go big or go home
 
Anytime we get a big cold press this is possible. If HP is gonna be that strong…. The low is gonna have to be stronger to get up n over it, some little 1005- 1017 Loser isn’t gonna cut it.


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Not really.

Suppression and shearing are two different things.
 
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Still no one wants some garbage little overrunning event. Amp it up, if it screws us it screws us .... I will take my chances with that than watching Coastal Plain get anything else and miss to my east

Agreed! Raleigh doesn't do big events but I would rather west of 85 get a foot then Raleigh get a 1" car topper.
 
Models have really went gangbusters with the Arctic block moving South and connecting with the West coast ridge. That action keeps pushing the initial PV further south and east. Lays the foundation for a southern storm track. After that, it will all depend on how the pacific wave interacts with any trailing polar lobe to determine what happens. The 00z GFS was close to a best case scenario for that interaction I think.

If we lose another storm to the gulf coast, I don’t think I’ll be able to bear it. Suppression, shearing is real this year.
 
Could we see a repeat of a few weeks ago where the bulk of the storm stays south? Us east of the mountains in NC are ready for a Big Dog.
 
The overall array of outcomes from this look is pretty widegfs-deterministic-conus-vort500_z500-9923200.png

Just for mby I could easily draw up 72 and thunderstorms, 22 and heavy snow, 42 and cloudy with snow to my south from this image. I say this to say we are likely going to see some wild swings over the next 2 or 3 days on the models.

I also wouldn't tbe too terribly surprised if there is another threat or 2 after this one. This pattern may try to go pretty hard for 2-3 weeks before it starts fading away and is likely gone 3/15-20
 
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The overall array of outcomes from this look is pretty wideView attachment 168449

Just for mby I could easily draw up 72 and thunderstorms, 22 and heavy snow, 42 and cloudy with snow to my south easily from this image. I say this to say we are likely going to see some wild swings over the next 2 or 3 days on the models.

I also wouldn't tbe too terribly surprised if there is another threat or 2 after this one. This pattern may try to go pretty hard for 2-3 weeks before it starts fading away and is likely gone 3/15-20

We’re again at the point where we need the perfect balance of dig, phase, and amp to bring in energy, qpf but keep the storm south. Can’t be too much or too little. Agree everything is still on the table. Amped rain storm or whiff.

That’s why the ensembles are generally pretty sad imo, just a mixed bag of options.
 
We’re again at the point where we need the perfect balance of dig, phase, and amp to bring in energy, qpf but keep the storm south. Can’t be too much or too little. Agree everything is still on the table. Amped rain storm or whiff.

That’s why the ensembles are generally pretty sad imo, just a mixed bag of options.
We're in a kind of a regime where there are going to be multiple opportunities. Around here, that's helpful since it's so hard to put things together the right way.

Anyway, full send on winter through mid-March. By then, the background likely becomes unfavorable. Plus, we'll be fighting modern climo.
 
We're in a kind of a regime where there are going to be multiple opportunities. Around here, that's helpful since it's so hard to put things together the right way.

Anyway, full send on winter through mid-March. By then, the background likely becomes unfavorable. Plus, we'll be fighting modern climo.

Yeah, I’m hoping for the earliest threats possible, as the later we go, into March, the colder than normal air needed and the harder it is imo.

Great to be in the game this late though!. It’s literally been a decade.
 
Still no one wants some garbage little overrunning event. Amp it up, if it screws us it screws us .... I will take my chances with that than watching Coastal Plain get anything else and miss to my east

Hey some of us would be rather pleased with 2-4” instead of another two inches of rain.
 
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