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Pattern December to Remember

Webberweather53 said:
Ironically the last white Christmas in places like Columbia, SC up thru southwestern Piedmont (SE of Charlotte) was in fact 1935 because of this storm on the 22nd and 23rd.


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What exactly qualifies as a White Christmas. I know I’ve seen your map of the 2010 storm and honestly it looks a bit off. Even though the snow didn’t start at my house until about 8pm Christmas night, the ground was covered with between .25-.50” by midnight… I remember letting my kids go out play in it around 11pm just so they could say they had played in the snow on Christmas. Also, you don’t have and accumulations for the 25th in Charlotte or Concord…my parents house, which is just a mile from the Speedway, had 1” by midnight and CLT officially has .4” listed in their records for that day. I know the heaviest snow didn’t get going for CLT metro and SE until 2-4am, but a lot of areas did in fact have the ground solidly covered before midnight.
 
Griteaters post on Twitter was very informative. He is basing that on an orbit of mjo from 7 to 8 to 1 I'm assuming. January being cold would go against the euro seasonal, which is a blowtorch. If the nao becomes west based, we would be in better shape imo. East based wont do us any good imo. I still believe the niña is east based with coldest anomalies off coast of Peru and a -qbo how that plays into everything. Either webber or griteater mentioned how the -qbo can sometimes propagate the mjo further along than one would see it go.
 
Chazwin said:
What exactly qualifies as a White Christmas. I know I’ve seen your map of the 2010 storm and honestly it looks a bit off. Even though the snow didn’t start at my house until about 8pm Christmas night, the ground was covered with between .25-.50” by midnight… I remember letting my kids go out play in it around 11pm just so they could say they had played in the snow on Christmas. Also, you don’t have and accumulations for the 25th in Charlotte or Concord…my parents house, which is just a mile from the Speedway, had 1” by midnight and CLT officially has .4” listed in their records for that day. I know the heaviest snow didn’t get going for CLT metro and SE until 2-4am, but a lot of areas did in fact have the ground solidly covered before midnight.
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At least 1” of snow on the ground or having fallen on Dec 25 counts as a white Christmas
 
Not far off from a suprise event here Saturday 5DBC7308-983F-4766-8DC3-8B75E7EAA250.png
 
0Z GEFS looks better already before day 10. Let’s see if it holds through the rest of the run.

The -NAO looks weaker on this run, however. You can tell also because Europe isn’t as cold.
 
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Some big dogs in the weather community taking notice of tomorrow’s winds and storms Up here! ??8E6ADB07-F4BD-4EE7-AE4E-F1FC5A94D626.png0AA2964B-60EF-4B11-BDB8-F034B65A908A.png
 
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