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Pattern December Dud đź‘€

From JB. Week 4, Euro control out of control...

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Wow, lol
 
RainlessSnowless & Grumpy said:
Serious question, how? If the source regions are starting out 20 degrees above average I can't see how that's good. We always have temp issues anyway.
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In a general sense, if Canada is under mega ridges it usually means we’re under anamolus troughs/lows, and all that wave action is shifted further south than usual. You aren’t gonna set all time record lows in a pattern like that, but it can absolutely be cold enough to snow, especially in prime climo time.

But sure, you’d like to see more cold air trapped underneath than what the long range ensembles are showing so far. That week 4 euro control would be ideal.
 
Myfrotho704_ said:
GFS starting to pick up on some clipper snow action again View attachment 156081
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Thats what we have to root for. Id be estatic with another half to 1 inch duster right before Christmas and call it a huge win. Plus we should have a good open window to take a shot at a big dog in early to mid January. Thanks for posting.
 
NCSNOW said:
Thats what we have to root for. Id be estatic with another half to 1 inch duster right before Christmas and call it a huge win. Plus we should have a good open window to take a shot at a big dog in early to mid January. Thanks for posting.
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Where do you live near? We had nothing just north of Pittsboro.
 
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Prolly gonna head up high in hopes that the nam3 is right for some escarpment undercast in the morning tomorrow.
 
Metwannabe said:
@ILMRoss probably likes the ICON trend, still work to do if a certain NE NC dude can catch a rogue flake lol
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How many times have we seen this whiff setup over the last 2-3 years? It’s crazy to me that we see these a few times a year now. What’s the reason we can’t get a wave to do this exact same thing except a couple hundred miles back to the west? Nothing ever digs across the middle of the country anymore. It’s always this late bloomer coastal bullsh** year after year after year. What’s the tipping point? Honestly
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
How many times have we seen this whiff setup over the last 2-3 years? It’s crazy to me that we see these a few times a year now. What’s the reason we can’t get a wave to do this exact same thing except a couple hundred miles back to the west? Nothing ever digs across the middle of the country anymore. It’s always this late bloomer coastal bullsh** year after year after year. What’s the tipping point? Honestly
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It seems like every time we get these WC ridge pumps recently they are too flat or too far E likely owing to the overall stronger pac jet the last few years. Combine that with a real lack of a legitimate long lasting well established true -nao and magically everything is either biased north or east
 
Passing Along: Scanned the Euro and Canadian to get a consensus on temps through Holliday week coming up. Seeing about tee times. No Bueno this weekend through Christmas Day, unless you like playing with temps in the 30's/near 40 for highs.
26th-NYD temps here we get low 50's ( saw a 54 New Years Eve on Euro). Problem is it looks like moisture is gonna be a threat Those days ( New years Eve and Day) for right now. Weekend of 28-29th are your best bet. Perfect if you ask me. My fav golf wx is temps in the 50's with sun and no breeze. As there is no bugs, Humidity, sweating involved.
 
NCSNOW said:
Passing Along: Scanned the Euro and Canadian to get a consensus on temps through Holliday week coming up. Seeing about tee times. No Bueno this weekend through Christmas Day, unless you like playing with temps in the 30's/near 40 for highs.
26th-NYD temps here we get low 50's ( saw a 54 New Years Eve on Euro). Problem is it looks like moisture is gonna be a threat Those days ( New years Eve and Day) for right now. Weekend of 28-29th are your best bet. Perfect if you ask me. My fav golf wx is temps in the 50's with sun and no breeze. As there is no bugs, Humidity, sweating involved.
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For Christmas my number one weather wish is always for snow. But my second is for no torch. The 6z GFS, at least, would give me that.

2m temps for late afternoon Christmas day:
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NCSNOW said:
Passing Along: Scanned the Euro and Canadian to get a consensus on temps through Holliday week coming up. Seeing about tee times. No Bueno this weekend through Christmas Day, unless you like playing with temps in the 30's/near 40 for highs.
26th-NYD temps here we get low 50's ( saw a 54 New Years Eve on Euro). Problem is it looks like moisture is gonna be a threat Those days ( New years Eve and Day) for right now. Weekend of 28-29th are your best bet. Perfect if you ask me. My fav golf wx is temps in the 50's with sun and no breeze. As there is no bugs, Humidity, sweating involved.
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Playing today before I go back to the back surgeon for consultation Friday! They saying low 60s today I say it happens right when we are about through, like 18th hole. lol. Currently foggy and 48 damp degrees...
 
FallsLake said:
For Christmas my number one weather wish is always for snow. But my second is for no torch. The 6z GFS, at least, would give me that.

2m temps for late afternoon Christmas day:
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GFS is a lot warmer than Canadian/Euro post Christmas temps. GFS , just like summer always over exaggerates its temps in the long range. Been my experience/ no actual science to back that statement up.
 
Got about a 90 hour window from late Fri-Tuesday , that if anything falls it would be frozen. Trick is getting anything to fall, 12z gfs and short RGEM show a sprit or two. So not impossible 5 days out for someone to get a novelty pellet/flake.

Anyway, check this out Monday a.m. Coldest Ive seen.

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Models have teased at this a few times over the last several days but I do wonder if we need to watch Christmas Eve morning for areas in the Southeast. I wonder if that moisture will arrive before the cold air completely pulls out.
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