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Pattern December Discussion

Re: December Discussion

NorthGaWinter link said:
Not one member With snow...
for your BY....


they don't count ice.this isn't a snow pattern , if anything it would a wintry mix . I've said for weeks and still believe this pattern favors northern LA , Arkansas , Tenn and CAD regions on NC. if I were in those areas I would be very excited about the possibilities next week. this isn't a pattern for your area or mine 

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Ryan will be updating the model times to EST he said.
 
Re: December Discussion

Storm5 link said:
[quote author=NorthGaWinter link=topic=2.msg1575#msg1575 date=1481575136]
Not one member With snow...
for your BY....


they don't count ice.this isn't a snow pattern , if anything it would a wintry mix . I've said for weeks and still believe this pattern favors northern LA , Arkansas , Tenn and CAD regions on NC. if I were in those areas I would be very excited about the possibilities next week. this isn't a pattern for your area or mine 

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I wouldn't entirely discount the CAD areas of Upstate SC - at any rate, the Memphis metro looks great
 
drfranklin link said:
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[quote author=NorthGaWinter link=topic=2.msg1575#msg1575 date=1481575136]
Not one member With snow...
for your BY....


they don't count ice.this isn't a snow pattern , if anything it would a wintry mix . I've said for weeks and still believe this pattern favors northern LA , Arkansas , Tenn and CAD regions on NC. if I were in those areas I would be very excited about the possibilities next week. this isn't a pattern for your area or mine 

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I wouldn't entirely discount the CAD areas of Upstate SC - at any rate, the Memphis metro looks great
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Yeah any cad area really , I agree with you. problem is for anyone to see anything next week it's pretty much all timing and I'm not talking about possible precip behind front Sunday or Monday . I'm talking about the possible wave Tuesday into wednesday. how fast does the cold move out , when does the precip arrive. thw general questions for southern winter weather lol

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Certainly think areas along &/or north & west of the Triad-Statesville-Gastonia and towards the blue ridge escarpment could see a light glazing of ice at the onset of the storm this Saturday before the in-situ CAD erodes...
 
since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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Storm5 link said:
since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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Sorry man I was just looking at it on the gfs and shaking my head

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Storm5 link said:
since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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Game over...LOL!


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whatalife link said:
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since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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Game over...LOL!


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Yeah, models are great this year! Be afraid
 
Tarheel1 link said:
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[quote author=Storm5 link=topic=2.msg1582#msg1582 date=1481577130]
since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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Game over...LOL!


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Yeah, models are great this year! Be afraid
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LOL...Not afraid...It is what it is...


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Storm5 link said:
since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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"the PV being disturbed by warming in the stratosphere . With enough warming , the PV will split in half,  and hopefully send a lobe over to our side of the world"  Is what I read on other post.
 
Re: December Discussion

accu35 link said:
[quote author=Storm5 link=topic=2.msg1582#msg1582 date=1481577130]
since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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"the PV being disturbed by warming in the stratosphere . With enough warming , the PV will split in half,  and hopefully send a lobe over to our side of the world"  Is what I read on other post.
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lol that's what we hope for every winter. when we are depending on a split you know we are screwed . the ole SSW event. Is Judah Cohen even still publishing blogs ?

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I'm gonna stick to the "models are not handling the cold correctly" cliche to make me feel better about the chances  ;D
 
Storm5 link said:
since we all want a cold January , let's ignore the fact the PV is going to be getting its act together and consolidating towards the pole........

SD ruined my day

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Yea 12z guidance is not a good look heading into late December. +AO/NAO/EPO. Troughs dumping out into Central US and Ridge off to the East.

12Z EPS at day 10
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12Z GEFS day 10
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Day 12
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Christmas
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Day 15 going towards New Years
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SoutheastRidge link said:
A little over 8 days from now the days will start getting longer again. Spring is on it's way !
we could have went little longer with hearing that lol. Besides it wont be very noticeable until late Feb early March
 
The first shot of ZR is nothing crazy.  Ice map I just saw shows 0.01 for the whole SE area who are affected.  Not that it can't be the start of a trend/get heavier.  Euro had quite the icing a few days ago in this timeframe along with GGEM.
 
SnowFlowXXL link said:
GFS coming in a little more icy for Friday night I believe
Nice on set of ip/zr into Atlanta metro Early Saturday morning. It's coming in little wetter from past runs.

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Starburst link said:
The first shot of ZR is nothing crazy.  Ice map I just saw shows 0.01 for the whole SE area who are affected.  Not that it can't be the start of a trend/get heavier.  Euro had quite the icing a few days ago in this timeframe along with GGEM.
The map I saw has .10-.15 from about Athens Ga, to Spartanburg SC!?
 
Tarheel1 link said:
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The first shot of ZR is nothing crazy.  Ice map I just saw shows 0.01 for the whole SE area who are affected.  Not that it can't be the start of a trend/get heavier.  Euro had quite the icing a few days ago in this timeframe along with GGEM.
The map I saw has .10-.15 from about Athens Ga, to Spartanburg SC!?
[/quote] that's WWA criteria, but with the drought it might not take much to down some trees.
 
Tarheel1 link said:
[quote author=Starburst link=topic=2.msg1596#msg1596 date=1481581648]
The first shot of ZR is nothing crazy.  Ice map I just saw shows 0.01 for the whole SE area who are affected.  Not that it can't be the start of a trend/get heavier.  Euro had quite the icing a few days ago in this timeframe along with GGEM.
The map I saw has .10-.15 from about Athens Ga, to Spartanburg SC!?
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I was using the AMWX maps.  Odd.  But that's substantially more.
 
Storm5 link said:
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might be time for you to take a timeout

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RollTide18 link said:
According to the 18z GFS, we'll have 40s for Christmas

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Yeah, not much of a torch
 
Does anyone know if the pivotal weather maps are accurate for ice accumulation?  if they are correct, it's a quite bigger icing situation.  of course, that kind of wedge wouldn't erode too quickly, especially with consistent light-moderate precipitation.
 
Anybody got temps/dp's for early morning Saturday, let's say for GA and Carolinas??
 
SD link said:
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=2.msg1609#msg1609 date=1481584170]
Anybody got temps/dp's for early morning Saturday, let's say for GA and Carolinas??
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Wow! Thanks! That 1-3 degree dewpoint in the Piedmont is crazy and low to mid 20s on the temps! People better hope the precip isn't steady or early! The 10-15 degree dp's and mid upper 20s in NE GA and Upstate, isn't as impressive, but they should see precip first! Could be interesting!?
 
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