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Wintry December 4-7 Winter Precip Chance

At this point if your looking for hope in NC, you want a further west/more nuetral/- tilted piece of energy here (this is the last piece of NS Energy in this setup) as this allows some precip to breakout ahead of the upper level trough, and at this point 850s are well below freezing D3CBDA75-C9D9-412C-A5B0-5A862238EA33.gif
 
Yeah so if we're doomed to have the first N/S piece slow down and interact more, increasing/amping that --> heavier precip (rain) at first, then as the second upper level trough approaches and provides cold air and additional forcing we might be able to see some flakes:
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Gfs is slowly doing what the ICON/RGEM has done, I guess it’s progressive bias played a role in its fail and it mislead me yesterday B8E60433-B2C9-4380-BF92-01DF014BF31B.gif
 
I wonder if there is any way we can get snow with this look, or will it just cut off at the VA border or maybe @metwannabe’s house if we’re lucky?

Now we need the opposite, and earlier phase between the energy, and then the last part to tilt favorably and more south and that could introduce wrap around backend snow into NC
 
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