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NoSnowATL said:
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These posts are pointless. Theres zero need to post this unless you have patient to patient comparisons. Sure the flu has killed a lot of people but that is totally irrelevant to the current situation. Just today the WHO raised the death rate of covid-19 to well more than the seasonal flu.

www.cnbc.com

WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally, higher than previously thought

World health officials say the death rate for COVID-19 is 3.4% globally, higher than previous estimates of about 2%.
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snowlover91 said:
Nah he’s fine I just talked to him yesterday.
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I am good at this point, prior to and here after been keeping up with a lot of the peer reviewed documentation. I have a pretty significant background in biology and chemistry with a focus on biochem, with several graduate level courses in molecular genetics, biochem and virology. Just in to the incubation period, full disclosure, traveled from RDU to SEA 2/20 and back 2/29, non-stop, spent most of my time in Portland - Multnomah Country, a 150 mile drive south from SEATAC, adjacent to Clackamas county, but I had no less than 4 visits to Clackamas. SEATAC on the way back was epic busy for an airport, Int terminal and we saw 1 Korean Air land from Inchon and another triple 7 depart for Singapore. I can get in to the specifics on incubation period but this is not the platform, standard deviation within -1 to 1 falls around 3-7 days.
 
Shaggy said:
Nah not enough testing going on to make a difference.
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Disagree. Tests or no tests, with as many cases that are possible some if them should need hospitalization. If another week passes without some sort of surge, either it's not spreading here or its mostly un-noticeable. Either or both would be good news.
 
Maybe this explains why some people hardly get sick while some are critical and die. Maybe there are 2 strains?

www.yahoo.com

Researchers identify two coronavirus strains as China cases dwindle

Scientists in China studying the outbreak of disease caused by the new coronavirus say they have found that two main strains of the virus are circulating in humans and causing infections. The researchers, from Peking University's School of Life Sciences and the Institut Pasteur of Shanghai...
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Shaggy said:
Maybe this explains why some people hardly get sick while some are critical and die. Maybe there are 2 strains?

www.yahoo.com

Researchers identify two coronavirus strains as China cases dwindle

Scientists in China studying the outbreak of disease caused by the new coronavirus say they have found that two main strains of the virus are circulating in humans and causing infections. The researchers, from Peking University's School of Life Sciences and the Institut Pasteur of Shanghai...
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Smart move by China and one I've been waiting on. They have to come up with a reason why so many people died in Wohan and no where else. SK is at 5.5k infections with still less than a 1% serious/critical rate.
 
This isn’t good.

“The first coronavirus patient in New Hampshire — an employee of Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center — defied instructions from public health officials to stay away from other people.

In a statement, the state Department of Health and Human Services said the patient attended an invitation-only private event Friday “despite having been directed to self-isolate.”


www.nbcnews.com

N.H. coronavirus patient breaks isolation, potentially exposing others

Most states have laws against breaking an isolation order.
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Shaggy said:
These posts are pointless. Theres zero need to post this unless you have patient to patient comparisons. Sure the flu has killed a lot of people but that is totally irrelevant to the current situation. Just today the WHO raised the death rate of covid-19 to well more than the seasonal flu.

www.cnbc.com

WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally, higher than previously thought

World health officials say the death rate for COVID-19 is 3.4% globally, higher than previous estimates of about 2%.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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We can agree to disagree.


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ajr said:
This is what I’m really worried about - as a society we don’t have enough trust in our government institutions to listen to advice like this.
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People aren't going to self-isolate here. Also, people aren't going to even go to be tested if they fear either being quarantined or having to pay large sums of money because they are uninsured or underinsured. We just have to hope that it's mild when we and/or someone we love eventually get it.
 
Shaggy said:
Nah not enough testing going on to make a difference.
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I think this will be the kicker for the US. There may be someone who was in or near a 'Hot Zone' who has a mild cough. I don't go to the ER for lab tests every time i get a tickle in my throat.

We just aren't testing the General Public at this time. This thing is probably already wide spread and we just don't know it.
 
Rain Cold said:
People aren't going to self-isolate here. Also, people aren't going to even go to be tested if they fear either being quarantined or having to pay large sums of money because they are uninsured or underinsured. We just have to hope that it's mild when we and/or someone we love eventually get it.
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I took too long organizing my thoughts on a response and you beat me to it. lol
 
Rain Cold said:
People aren't going to self-isolate here. Also, people aren't going to even go to be tested if they fear either being quarantined or having to pay large sums of money because they are uninsured or underinsured. We just have to hope that it's mild when we and/or someone we love eventually get it.
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Is the testing more expensive then going to the doctor and getting tested for the flu? I feel like you can say the same thing about the flu with your statement. I’m not downplaying this virus but it feels like it will be another flu shot in 1-2 years the government will want you to get.


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Jon said:
Most likely supportive care. Maybe antivirals although that’s depending on the protocol at the hospital. They could be using some experimentally, I’m not sure.

Usually the body ends up fighting viruses pretty effectively, it’s the secondary infections such as viral pneumonia turning into bacterial pneumonia that’s the concern...such as getting bilateral pneumonia and leading to ARDS (Acute respiratory distress syndrome). This then requires mechanical ventilation, and then organs start to fail, because your lungs can’t oxygenate your blood properly, which leads to organ failure (kidneys first as they’re farthest from the heart and lungs)...at that point you’re likely looking at being hooked up to an ECMO, which is life support. An ECMO machine handles the functions of your heart and lungs for you.

More here:

ARDS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_respiratory_distress_syndrome

ECMO https://uihc.org/health-topics/family-guide-ecmo


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In all my years working with military, civilian, FEMA, etc, I’ve only seen one person with ARDS survive long term. He got aspiration pneumonia from a misplaced ET when they removed it to reintubate. He was young (late 20’s). AFAIK he’s still alive today. He would be late 40’s.
 
WeatherNC said:
I am good at this point, prior to and here after been keeping up with a lot of the peer reviewed documentation. I have a pretty significant background in biology and chemistry with a focus on biochem, with several graduate level courses in molecular genetics, biochem and virology. Just in to the incubation period, full disclosure, traveled from RDU to SEA 2/20 and back 2/29, non-stop, spent most of my time in Portland - Multnomah Country, a 150 mile drive south from SEATAC, adjacent to Clackamas county, but I had no less than 4 visits to Clackamas. SEATAC on the way back was epic busy for an airport, Int terminal and we saw 1 Korean Air land from Inchon and another triple 7 depart for Singapore. I can get in to the specifics on incubation period but this is not the platform, standard deviation within -1 to 1 falls around 3-7 days.
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