Coronavirus (Stay on Topic)

[Nerman]

Do any of those articles you linked demonstrate a direct historical relationship between the unemployment rate and the deficit, or nah?

Yeah, but here's another one...

The U.S. is currently experiencing a disastrous “new normal”: The economy is booming at the same time that government debt and deficits are exploding. That scenario is a radical departure from the normally healthy, self-correcting interplay between economic growth and budget shortfalls—and its likely long-term consequences are worth losing sleep over.

In almost every other period in recent history, U.S. deficits have been counter-cyclical. When growth weakens, unemployment rises, so that fewer people are paying taxes. Falling profits shrink revenues from corporate levies, and the government frequently enacts emergency spending measures to recharge the economy. The shrinking tax receipts and temporary outlays swell the deficit. When the economy revives, in contrast, an expanding workforce and a surge in earnings lifts revenues and narrows the budget gap.

America's Disastrous New Normal: A Booming Economy and Soaring Deficits

It's an unprecedented combination, and a really unhealthy one.

fortune.com

That was January a year ago. It's gotten worse.

 

[Jimmy Hypocracy]

I told y’all to buy at 3:15

I’m afraid I missed my calling

 

[snowlover91]

Man I clicked on this thread thinking it was about the coronavirus... someone needs to change the thread title ?

 

[Ethan80963]

 

[Yellow Snow]

Yeah, but here's another one...

The U.S. is currently experiencing a disastrous “new normal”: The economy is booming at the same time that government debt and deficits are exploding. That scenario is a radical departure from the normally healthy, self-correcting interplay between economic growth and budget shortfalls—and its likely long-term consequences are worth losing sleep over.
In almost every other period in recent history, U.S. deficits have been counter-cyclical. When growth weakens, unemployment rises, so that fewer people are paying taxes. Falling profits shrink revenues from corporate levies, and the government frequently enacts emergency spending measures to recharge the economy. The shrinking tax receipts and temporary outlays swell the deficit. When the economy revives, in contrast, an expanding workforce and a surge in earnings lifts revenues and narrows the budget gap.

America's Disastrous New Normal: A Booming Economy and Soaring Deficits

It's an unprecedented combination, and a really unhealthy one.

fortune.com

That was January a year ago. It's gotten worse.

Did you read the entire article? The key metric is demographics (notably the rapidly-aging population), not unemployment.

 

[Deleted member 527]

Our GDP is 77.4% comprised of the Service Sector. What happens when everyone stays home?

Maybe we can cut taxes? Nope. Already done that. Cut rates? Sure, already done that and already at historical lows though. QE? They're already easing just by a different name.

And we've got a $1Trillion deficit this year when unemployment is the best it's been in over 70 years?

Consumer confidence the only thing pushes this last boom. Perfect storm folks.

It’s been a perfect storm for the last 12 to 16 years

 

[Yellow Snow]

Man I clicked on this thread thinking it was about the coronavirus... someone needs to change the thread title ?

Perhaps we should start a separate thread on the economic/financial impacts of Coronavirus, and devote this thread to the characteristics and progression of the pathogen as well as government responses to the pandemic (unless there are economic consequences that directly impact the ability of national & local polities to respond).

 

[Shawn]

Man, who would have known this would be the most popular thread on the site.

So, I was listening to the news and the FLU cases are dropping because people are practicing better hygiene over this new virus threat, lol.

 

[Nerman]

Did you read the entire article? The key metric is demographics (notably the rapidly-aging population), not unemployment.

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It's a combination of factors and employment is certainly one of the major factors that drives revenues. Again, agree to disagree here. Nobody said employment was the only factor. You said there is no correlation or very little and I've cited 4 articles that point to it having a major influence. Let's move on since we're not going to convince the other. ✌

 

[Ethan80963]

Here’s an add on to this. Some background info in the person recently got back to Atlanta from Washington DC

 

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[Myfrotho704_]

Lol here we go, it’s starting to crank up here in the US even tho it’s likely already has (lack of testing)

 

[Ethan80963]

 

[GeorgiaGirl]

Somewhat of a funny update (with the Waffle House part), I haven't been able to go to a store to really look in detail at (wanted to though to observe if there was any panic in buying) but as we were out today, a Waffle House we drove past was apparently jam packed with customers around lunchtime. The Lab Corp looked like things was going on as normal (with a couple that were working that wore masks), and the Pita Street Food I was at seemed normal as well.

At least as of now, business as usual for most in town.

 

[Ethan80963]

This is an update from the ship off the California coast

 

[Yellow Snow]

Lol here we go, it’s starting to crank up here in the US even tho it’s likely already has (lack of testing)

Definitely looking like a wider geographic dispersion across the US than it was a couple of days ago...

 

[Nerman]

CDC says older adults should “stay at home as much as possible” due to coronavirus
From CNN Health’s Elizabeth Cohen and John Bonifield

Amid a coronavirus outbreak in the United States, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted new guidance on its website, encouraging older people and people with severe chronic medical conditions to “stay at home as much as possible.”
This advice is on a CDC website that was posted Thursday.
The CDC says early data suggests older people and people who have severe chronic medical conditions like heart, lung, or kidney disease are at higher risk for more serious illness from the novel. coronavirus. The CDC says older people are twice as likely to become seriously ill if they become infected with the virus.
Some context: This advice from the CDC comes as two top infectious disease experts with ties to the federal government have advised people over 60 and those with underlying health problems to strongly consider avoiding activities that involve large crowds, such as traveling by airplane, going to movie theaters, attending family events, shopping at crowded malls, and going to religious services.
A Trump administration official tells CNN that the US Department of Health and Human Services “is in the process of doing targeted outreach to the elderly community and those that have serious underlying health conditions.”

 

[Ethan80963]

This is scary how quick the numbers just jumped in Switzerland

 

[Ethan80963]

I don’t know how I feel about this

 

[Rosie]

CDC says older adults should “stay at home as much as possible” due to coronavirus
From CNN Health’s Elizabeth Cohen and John Bonifield

Amid a coronavirus outbreak in the United States, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted new guidance on its website, encouraging older people and people with severe chronic medical conditions to “stay at home as much as possible.”
This advice is on a CDC website that was posted Thursday.
The CDC says early data suggests older people and people who have severe chronic medical conditions like heart, lung, or kidney disease are at higher risk for more serious illness from the novel. coronavirus. The CDC says older people are twice as likely to become seriously ill if they become infected with the virus.
Some context: This advice from the CDC comes as two top infectious disease experts with ties to the federal government have advised people over 60 and those with underlying health problems to strongly consider avoiding activities that involve large crowds, such as traveling by airplane, going to movie theaters, attending family events, shopping at crowded malls, and going to religious services.
A Trump administration official tells CNN that the US Department of Health and Human Services “is in the process of doing targeted outreach to the elderly community and those that have serious underlying health conditions.”

Glad I am retired?

 

[Myfrotho704_]

This coronavirus has spread like norovirus on these cruise ships, and we know how contagious norovirus is

 

[Ethan80963]

 

[EV/WS]

The amount of gloves and hand sanitizer being purchased right now is unreal. Literally have more quantity on open sales orders than I have in stock on order+on order+available from suppliers.

Now there is an empty container shortage.

Another Food Lion (That still exist lol) on my way home. ??‍

 

[Snowfan]

 

[Windergawx]

#the difference

Police-enforced quarantine hits Calif. residential block after man’s coronavirus death

People who live there were initially unclear why they were told to stay in their home. Officers eventually let them come and go.

www.fox19.com

 

[Ethan80963]

 

[Snowfan]

 

[Ethan80963]

 

[NoSnowATL]

The 1968 pandemic (flu) killed 1 million people.


February 1957, a new influenza A (H2N2) killed 1.1 million


2009 H1N1 killed 20k

Then the big dog.... The 1918 influenza pandemic was the most severe pandemic in recent history. It was caused by an H1N1 virus with genes of avian origin. Although there is not universal consensus regarding where the virus originated, it spread worldwide during 1918-1919. In the United States, it was first identified in military personnel in spring 1918. It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world’s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States.





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[Ethan80963]

In southern SC

 

[EV/WS]

Crazy Stat: 53,000+ American soldiers died in combat in WW1. 550,000+ American soldiers died from the Spanish flu during but majority after WW1. (Majority from being overseas.)

 

[Arcc]

This really is sad.

What is happening in Italy?
Officials announced the record daily death toll in a statement on Friday.

They said the number could not be officially confirmed until health officials had "established the actual cause of death".

The national health institute said the average age of those who have died was 81, with the majority suffering from underlying health problems. An estimated 72% of all those who have died were men.

According to government data, 4.25% of confirmed coronavirus cases have died, the highest rate in the world.

Italy has one of the world's oldest populations

Coronavirus: Italy reports biggest daily jump in death toll

Officials say 49 more people have died, marking the country's largest daily increase in fatalities.

www.google.com

 

[Jimmy Hypocracy]

Big night. Looks like many states are coming in reporting their first cases. Mayday

 

[Snowfan]

 

[Snowfan]

 

[Snowfan]

 

[Rain Cold]

Big night. Looks like many states are coming in reporting their first cases. Mayday

Amazing what happens when you start testing. It's too late for containment now. Buckle up.

 

[EV/WS]

If accurate and not knowing how many “Carriers” that’s 0.007 MRT. Like others have said I think SK is a fair and relatively accurate barometer to use for developed nations. Of course, I’ve no idea who and how accurate the Global Times is.