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Utah mom Kassidi Kurill dies four days after second dose of Moderna vaccine
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Utah mom Kassidi Kurill dies four days after second dose of Moderna vaccine - NewsBreak

A 39-year-old single mom in Utah with no underlying medical conditions died four days after receiving her second dose of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, according to a report. Kassidi Kurill, a mother of one from Ogden, received the vaccine due to her work as a surgical tech for several plastic...
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Acworth WX said:
...vaccines for what? That thing he said would like a miracle just disappear? That thing Kayleigh said wouldn't come to our shores? The thing that Kudlow said was contained?
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Sorry, I have no idea what your point(s) is, in reference of this video. Since I am lost in your questioning, I can not reply.
 
VegasEagle said:
Sorry, I have no idea what your point(s) is, in reference of this video. Since I am lost in your questioning, I can not reply.
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The Scavino video is laughable-as is most of what comes from the former president and his team. The government funded the research and development of vaccines. While scientists across the globe busted their asses to get us where we are, the former president and his team denied the severity of the situation-repeatedly putting the country at risk. When the vaccine was approved his team was unable to get it to the people because that wasn't his main focus...he was too busy harassing state government officials trying to overturn election results that made him sad.

I'm glad the government funded Warp Speed. Let's not pretend trump was in a lab working his magic or that he had a rollout plan to get the maximum amount of doses in the arms of as many people as possible.
 
Wonder when NC is just going to open vaccines to all? Seems like there’s a lot of line skipping going on at this point and I know a lot of young, healthy people getting it (some before my parents were able to, which kind of bothered me). I’d take one now if it were offered to me, but I feel morally iffy about cutting line, and at this rate if they stick to the planned phases I probably won’t be able to get it until May (group 5). Of course, I could just lie and say I’m a smoker and be eligible in five days, which is how dumb this system is. Old people first made a lot of sense, but now it’s just a mess.

I donated blood yesterday and they run an antibody test, so I’m interested to see the results from that (though I anticipate them to be negative).
 
superjames1992 said:
Wonder when NC is just going to open vaccines to all? Seems like there’s a lot of line skipping going on at this point and I know a lot of young, healthy people getting it (some before my parents were able to, which kind of bothered me). I’d take one now if it were offered to me, but I feel morally iffy about cutting line, and at this rate if they stick to the planned phases I probably won’t be able to get it until May (group 5). Of course, I could just lie and say I’m a smoker and be eligible in five days, which is how dumb this system is. Old people first made a lot of sense, but now it’s just a mess.

I donated blood yesterday and they run an antibody test, so I’m interested to see the results from that (though I anticipate them to be negative).
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I'm in group 3 due to my profession, so that's how I was able to get it. When my employer sent out the email with the link to the county's health dept. sign up, I happened to be in my email and just did it right then and there. I later heard that all the spots were gone within a few hours, and maybe they might open more appts. next week.

This whole "Open to everyone now" business is more political theatre. It's a feel good press release. There aren't any extra slots being allocated to support the increase in availability. The only thing that will happen now is more people vying for the same number of slots as there have been.
 
Acworth WX said:
The Scavino video is laughable-as is most of what comes from the former president and his team. The government funded the research and development of vaccines. While scientists across the globe busted their asses to get us where we are, the former president and his team denied the severity of the situation-repeatedly putting the country at risk. When the vaccine was approved his team was unable to get it to the people because that wasn't his main focus...he was too busy harassing state government officials trying to overturn election results that made him sad.

I'm glad the government funded Warp Speed. Let's not pretend trump was in a lab working his magic or that he had a rollout plan to get the maximum amount of doses in the arms of as many people as possible.
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Pfizer was one of the first 2 to the market with a working vaccine and refused all aid from warp speed.
 
NCSNOW said:
They got a 1.95 BILLION dollar contract from the federal Government last year and no strigs attached for their vaccine.
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Sure but that's got nothing to do with Pfizer rejecting the warp speed money. In fact trumps admin didnt rollout available Pfizer surplused vaccine when it was just sitting in their warehouse. Imagine how much better we could be sitting if those vaccines were distributed by trump.

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Pfizer antes up on the feds' vaccine criticism, saying Warp Speed has everything it's asked for—and more

After federal officials took aim at Pfizer's pandemic vaccine work Wednesday, Pfizer hit back. The drugmaker said its manufacturing is right on track, delivery commitments have been met and, what's more, it has millions more doses on warehouse shelves. All it needs are shipping instructions from...
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Shaggy said:
Sure but that's got nothing to do with Pfizer rejecting the warp speed money. In fact trumps admin didnt rollout available Pfizer surplused vaccine when it was just sitting in their warehouse. Imagine how much better we could be sitting if those vaccines were distributed by trump.

www.fiercepharma.com

Pfizer antes up on the feds' vaccine criticism, saying Warp Speed has everything it's asked for—and more

After federal officials took aim at Pfizer's pandemic vaccine work Wednesday, Pfizer hit back. The drugmaker said its manufacturing is right on track, delivery commitments have been met and, what's more, it has millions more doses on warehouse shelves. All it needs are shipping instructions from...
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Did you fully read this article?
 
Shaggy said:
Sure but that's got nothing to do with Pfizer rejecting the warp speed money. In fact trumps admin didnt rollout available Pfizer surplused vaccine when it was just sitting in their warehouse. Imagine how much better we could be sitting if those vaccines were distributed by trump.

www.fiercepharma.com

Pfizer antes up on the feds' vaccine criticism, saying Warp Speed has everything it's asked for—and more

After federal officials took aim at Pfizer's pandemic vaccine work Wednesday, Pfizer hit back. The drugmaker said its manufacturing is right on track, delivery commitments have been met and, what's more, it has millions more doses on warehouse shelves. All it needs are shipping instructions from...
www.fiercepharma.com www.fiercepharma.com
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Pfizer only kinda sorta rejected warp speed money. They rejected R&D and instead opted for guaranteed purchase contracts. So they still got Warp Speed money. Tds.

Also this article is hap hazardly written. In 1 paragraph they report that the trump administration was mad that Pfizer was moving too slowly, but then in the next paragraph the article says that the trump administration was throttling Pfizer and slowing them down. Well, which one was it?

Then we have the former fda chief who, was a political appointee under Obama, saying that the trump administration is letting vaccines sit in the warehouse. But then at the bottom of the article the Pfizer spokeswoman says there are no vaccines sitting in warehouses. So which one is it?

Partisan journalism much? Tds...
 
smast16 said:
Pfizer only kinda sorta rejected warp speed money. They rejected R&D and instead opted for guaranteed purchase contracts. So they still got Warp Speed money. Tds.

Also this article is hap hazardly written. In 1 paragraph they report that the trump administration was mad that Pfizer was moving too slowly, but then in the next paragraph the article says that the trump administration was throttling Pfizer and slowing them down. Well, which one was it?

Then we have the former fda chief who, was a political appointee under Obama, saying that the trump administration is letting vaccines sit in the warehouse. But then at the bottom of the article the Pfizer spokeswoman says there are no vaccines sitting in warehouses. So which one is it?

Partisan journalism much? Tds...
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Guaranteed contract has zero to do with development speed and efficacy. The Pfizer was developed with their money with a promise by the govt to buy it if they suceeded.
 
Shaggy said:
Guaranteed contract has zero to do with development speed and efficacy. The Pfizer was developed with their money with a promise by the govt to buy it if they suceeded.
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So they got paid after the game vs before the game.

But they still got paid. Her Der ** fart **
 
Where we started...

Shaggy said:
Sure but that's got nothing to do with Pfizer rejecting the warp speed money. In fact trumps admin didnt rollout available Pfizer surplused vaccine when it was just sitting in their warehouse. Imagine how much better we could be sitting if those vaccines were distributed by trump.

www.fiercepharma.com

Pfizer antes up on the feds' vaccine criticism, saying Warp Speed has everything it's asked for—and more

After federal officials took aim at Pfizer's pandemic vaccine work Wednesday, Pfizer hit back. The drugmaker said its manufacturing is right on track, delivery commitments have been met and, what's more, it has millions more doses on warehouse shelves. All it needs are shipping instructions from...
www.fiercepharma.com www.fiercepharma.com
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Where we ended up

Shaggy said:
Yup they got paid for product they independently developed without aid from op warp speed.
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The mental gymnastics to rewrite your own narrative are impressive, but still a failure.

From a source you would trust.

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In July, Pfizer got a $1.95 billion deal with the government’s Operation Warp Speed, the multiagency effort to rush a vaccine to market, to deliver 100 million doses of the vaccine. The arrangement is an advance-purchase agreement, meaning that the company won’t get paid until they deliver the vaccines.
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They still got paid from operation Warp speed.

On Monday, a spokeswoman for Pfizer clarified that the company is part of Operation Warp Speed as a supplier of a potential coronavirus vaccine.
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Oops.... I guess you missed that memo.
 
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