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but what about the airplane. he left the plague behind him on the airplane.
selfish people man. its like "oh, im in italy, everyone is getting sick. let me just mosey on BACK HOME with the virus to a LARGE airport in Atlanta. It'll be fine!"

Yep, that’s how she spreads. I figured ATL would be one of the 1st places since we are the main hotspot for travelers.


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It is still imo not spreading super fast in the US. Not really that out of hand so far imo. But long way to go before all plays out of course.

It’s definitely spreading fast, not as fast as thought but still spreading, I’ve seen some disturbing things on twitter today about people in Seattle getting declined testing
 
Pretty interesting article from the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6909e1.htm?s_cid=mm6909e1_w

Here's a snapshot that studied 445 close contacts:

Active symptom monitoring of the 445 close contacts, consisting of daily telephone, text, or in-person inquiries about fever or other symptoms for 14 days following the last known exposure to a person with confirmed COVID-19, was conducted by local health jurisdictions. During the 14 days of active symptom monitoring, 54 (12%) close contacts developed new or worsening symptoms deemed by local public health authorities to be concerning for COVID-19 and were thus considered persons under investigation (PUIs)§§ and subsequently were tested for SARS-CoV-2. Two persons who were household members of patients with confirmed COVID-19 tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. This yielded a symptomatic secondary attack rate of 0.45% (95% confidence interval [CI] = 0.12%–1.6%) among all close contacts,¶¶ and a symptomatic secondary attack rate of 10.5% (95% CI = 2.9%–31.4%) among household members. Both persons with confirmed secondary transmission had close contact with the respective source patient before COVID-19 was confirmed and were isolated from the source patient after the patient’s COVID-19 diagnosis.
 
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FYI...WHO thinks China numbers are real, I tend to agree. It’s good news and evidence quarantine works. Likely a lot of western countries don’t follow suit however.





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Kinda hard to say no to a quarantine when the government says, “Do it or be lined up and shot. Your choice comrade.”
 
It is. There have been very few tests run.
Yeah I would have to agree here .. a lot of initial testing put out could have sent a lot of false negatives out to some people and the testing given out now is almost guaranteed to show a positive if you have the virus so I expect numbers to climb (to what extent i dont know ) in the coming days
 
It is. There have been very few tests run.

I know. I still think it is not spreading faster than expected though I think it is spreading somewhat fast, which has been expected. We'll see. Right now I see no need for massive panic and have a lot of hope this will never get too widespread. One thing that I think will help is that a lot of folks are already taking protective measures, deciding not to go to crowded events, etc. Also, I'm also hoping that getting further into spring will end up helping.

In the meantime, nonvaccinated folks should not forget about the flu, which kills tens of thousands a year.
 
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I know. I still think it is not spreading faster than expected though I think it is spreading somewhat fast, which has been expected. We'll see. Right now I see no need for massive panic and have a lot of hope this will never get too widespread. One thing that I think will help is that a lot of folks are already taking protective measures, deciding not to go to crowded events, etc. Also, I'm also hoping that getting further into spring will end up helping.

In the meantime, nonvaccinated folks should not forget about the flu, which kills tens of thousands a year.

Flu shot effectiveness 34-45%. 16% for people over 65.


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I heard on the news a few minutes ago that JP Morgan Bank was telling their employees to prepare to work from home where possible. They have 189,000 employees world wide.
 
A person died on Feb 13 and just now determined it was from the coronavirus. So the virus was there several weeks before suspected.
 

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9 dead in the U.S. now with only ~100 cases reported. I know the data set is small, but that's a high mortality rate.

It seems alarming but absolutely no conclusions can be drawn from that.

Sample size is way too small and there are likely thousands of cases walking around in the US at this time...just haven’t been tested yet. There is an immense lag time in data updates, deaths are reported immediately...can’t test someone unless they physically go to get tested.


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9 dead in the U.S. now with only ~100 cases reported. I know the data set is small, but that's a high mortality rate.

It would be but there could easily already be 1,000 or even several thousands already infected.

Edit: Of course OTOH, there could also be some deaths from this that haven't been reported that way.
 
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I wonder how many thousands are just walking around with the sniffles with hardly any symptoms?

This is extremely likely due to the incubation period and experts repeating that many younger patients have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic. It’s present in people walking around thinking they have a minor cold or allergies. Very likely 1000s of cases currently, and this is a shared opinion by experts in the US.


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Has anyone seen the video of a person in a mask collapsing in NYC? Don't know if it's real but would like input from others
 
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