ForsythSnow
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But it's not like it's just the protests. It's also as mentioned those people gathering regardless of protests or not. Saying it's just the protests alone or reopening alone wreaks of political bias. It's a mixture.
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I know this may be crazy.. but maybe the recent increases are a combination of protests and reopening instead of just one factor?
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Ha just said the same thing
Snowflowxxl
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There were thousands of people in piedmont park and on others areas of GA while the reopening began. There was no spike. The spikes happened after the protest began.
ForsythSnow
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Are you forgetting the virus can take up to 2 weeks to show symptoms?
Snowflowxxl
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I’m aware that piedmont park had been flooded with people since late April and when I went out and about there had been people not social distancing long before the recent spike.
Shaggy
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So then the virus only effects one group of non-socially distancing individuals and spares another?
Really?
ForsythSnow
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Yeah but that's literally a single sample. 1 park in a major city. Were you at every Gym across the state or better yet the US? Every Restaurant? Every public space? Every private gathering? You already know the answer there. Private gatherings have gone up and people have slowly stopped wearing masks. Look at the last word in the sentence. People have stopped wearing masks more recently as well which in turn will lead to a stronger surge. Remember, there's two mentalities: lockdown and not lockdown. People are generally stupid and live consistency. The recent weeks have made wearing a mask political so I can tell you a lot less people are wearing masks now because they think it's political or mind control or some other BS. It's not just the protests because the protesters represent a very small number of young adults who have not been social distancing, wearing masks, and have contracted the virus.
Snowflowxxl
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There were not 10,000’s of people all together like there were during these protest. Y’all have to be playing some serious mental gymnastics to actually convince yourself that these protest were not the leading factor of the uptick in cases.
Shaggy
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I provided a link with real contact tracing back to 1 single party that contradicts this notion. Im.sure there are hundreds of cases due to protest.
Yall should be thanking them. Didnt yall want to get to herd immunity?
Shaggy
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Good read.
www.yahoo.com
Coronavirus: could it be burning out after 20% of a population is infected?
There is speculation about whether a population can achieve some sort of immunity to the virus with as little as 20% infected.
Snowflowxxl
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Yes I have been in favor of herd immunity for a long time. It appears most Americans are not though.
Why do I have a feeling this Fall we are gonna get spanked harder than ever before and it lasts well after Christmas?
I mean talk about all the food (all businesses really) that do a fever check losing lots of productivity if someone gets a fever this Fall. Fever tests are required every day and it’s bound to mess up the chain of how we receive and provide goods to people.
Steven_1974
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A temperature check takes all of a few seconds. How exactly is that going to mess up the supply chain?
Because colds/flu with a fever will be treated as if it’s corona. Talk about a clusterfuck.
smast16
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I never said it's just from the protests... I was just insulting the idea that certain members push that the protests were NOT responsible for the rise in cases, and it was solely from re-opening. Which was in itself reeked of political bias...
Imagine workers getting paid leave because of a small cold with a fever. Medicine or testing needs to evolve quickly over the next 1-2 months or it’s going to be very hard to distinguish corona fever with everything else.
This will all probably lead to rapid innovation, making use of robotics and tech to replace human labor.
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One of my heroes—Roger Williams—coined the phrase “Monstrous Partiality”, which he used to describe those who were unable to recognize the error of their ways because they were so convinced of the rightness of their convictions.
If Williams were alive today he would describe the hard-line right and left the same way. I’m so tired of this monstrous partiality leading to such asinine bickering and political polarization. Everyone is so convinced of the rightness of their cause they cannot see their own hypocrisy staring them in the face.
“It’s the protestors!” “No it’s the stupid Christians!” Blah blah blah blah. Shut up and wear the mask!
If Williams were alive today he would describe the hard-line right and left the same way. I’m so tired of this monstrous partiality leading to such asinine bickering and political polarization. Everyone is so convinced of the rightness of their cause they cannot see their own hypocrisy staring them in the face.
“It’s the protestors!” “No it’s the stupid Christians!” Blah blah blah blah. Shut up and wear the mask!
Steven_1974
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People shouldn't be coming to work sick. These people hurt the supply chain with the flu by getting their coworkers infected.
Florida reports 5,266 new cases and 28 new deaths.
Two interesting images. Saw elsewhere.
I think I need to wash my mask I'm not sure how often you supposed to wash them but I definitely think I'm due
Alabama reports 1,734 new cases and 10 new deaths. Record high cases for Alabama.
JHS
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Bad thing is, is that human labor will not be back. 10's of thousands of jobs gone forever.
Not surprising. Only a little over a 1000 tests done yesterday.
ForsythSnow
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Comparing a nation that is in far northern Europe and has 6X less people total than the UK, and ultimately is far different than the US in terms of both culture and population density just twists perception. Every nation has a different scenario and impact so every nation has a different response.Two interesting images. Saw elsewhere.
Steven_1974
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Percentage increases in cases aren't correlated to percentage increases in testing at all. That has been proven over and over in multiple states.
Not the point. It’s backloading from yesterday. When you average 5-7k tests a day and 600-1000 confirmed cases and then go to 1000 tests and ~350 cases on one day, the spike the next day is probably back logged tests.
That is true, but from daily deaths, to the rise and then decline in deaths match almost completely time wise between the two countries as does deaths per million. The difference is one locked down and the other didn’t.
CEO of major hospital in epicenter of Texas' coronavirus surge issues a warning to young adults
"We are definitely seeing this affect young people, and they're getting quite ill. So we really need everybody to do their part," Houston Methodist CEO Dr. Marc Boom told CNBC on Monday.
Pretty significant drop in hospitalizations in North Carolina today, down to 843 from 890 yesterday and a peak of 915 last Tuesday. However, there is a cyclical nature to hospitalizations on a weekly basis, so I wouldn’t celebrate too much yet. Still, today’s 843 is lower than last Monday’s 870, so there could be something to it and perhaps hospitalizations have plateaued or peaked. We’ll see...hope for the best, expect the worst...
Excess hospital beds have now increased to 29% and ICU excess capacity has increased to 24%, which is the highest I can remember in a bit (which is good!).
Tomorrow will be telling, though. Tuesdays tend to be the worst days for hospitalizations.
Excess hospital beds have now increased to 29% and ICU excess capacity has increased to 24%, which is the highest I can remember in a bit (which is good!).
Tomorrow will be telling, though. Tuesdays tend to be the worst days for hospitalizations.
I’m not against him or anything he says, but this kind of lines up with something I’ve been pondering. If we assume the new study means only 20% will need to be infected to achieve some sort of herd immunity and note assume. Then you assume CV may burn itself out naturally. Then you have to assume a whole bunch of companies stand to loss a pile of money. Then Fauci just so happens to come out and say this just after the latest study was released.
Isn’t it kind of interesting how he comes out with a percentage that pretty much matches what the new study says? The rest of what he says makes plenty of sense, but it is a little convenient. Just thinking out loud.
www.marketwatch.com
Isn’t it kind of interesting how he comes out with a percentage that pretty much matches what the new study says? The rest of what he says makes plenty of sense, but it is a little convenient. Just thinking out loud.
Coronavirus vaccine still might not lead to herd immunity in U.S., Fauci warns
The U.S. is “unlikely” to develop herd immunity to COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday, due to the likely combination of only a partially effective...
www.marketwatch.com
Wife’s test came back less than 12 hours and was negative. She’s still sick with N/V, headaches x 5 days, along with dizziness.
Georgia reports 2,207 new cases and 6 new deaths.
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