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Richmond County School Systems announces end of the year changes

AUGUSTA, Ga. (WJBF) – Richmond County School Systems has announced the last day of social distance learning and plans for the remainder of the 2019-2020 academic year. Richmond County schools…
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Georgia already called school for the school year but still very interesting to me. I don't remember a heck of a lot from when I attended school from sooner than college, but I most certainly could've taken advantage of this deal they've put in for high school in everything except Math and a couple sciences. Boy that'd pretty much be extended vacation...
 
Matthew70 said:
nypost.com

Dr. Fauci endorses Tinder hookups ‘if you’re willing to take a risk’

Love is a risk. Literally.
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???? wait stay at home! No hookup! No stay at home! No hookup but wear protection! ????
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Social Distancing? Well, not really if you want to take the risk; but never mind if you risk other people you may be around too and besides it's relative risk.

Yep; same guy who as late as March 9th in the White House Briefing said if you were young go ahead and go on cruises; rally's were ok as long as not in hotspots. So wonder just what he really things; is it the end of the world if we don't continue to shut everything down for who knows how long or is it fine to just randomly hook up if you think there's relative acceptable risk..
 
Shaggy said:
Keep it shutdown says the nation.

www.politico.com

Poll: Don’t stop social distancing if coronavirus will spread

Only 10 percent of voters surveyed in a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll support ending social distancing to stimulate the economy.
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Trusting any polls is useless. They call who they want and know the way that individuals are going to lean. I’d bet the ones they called are getting paid and staying home. Let’s call 10 people that are almost broke or broke with no job now and I’d bet they say open the economy up. Or the protesters or the ones on food lines. All would say open economy up. Just like NY assuming certain deaths are associated to the virus yet they wont assume numbers of how many have had the virus. Govt only wants to counts deaths and some cases just to make the public more panicked. Instead of media saying hey 98-99% survive and are fine. The old saying take advantage of a crisis is what our govt does best.
 
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Shaggy said:
72% of Republicans say leave it shut down. That sure sounds like polls seeking their answers by only asking certain people.

The fact is and I know it's hard for you but you're in a very small minority of people who are choosing the economy over lives.
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Even if we open up to a degree social distancing is here to stay for a long time. Seeing Europe opening up a little will be a good indicator on how many flare ups are a result. That is, assuming their testing is accurate.
 
EmersonGA said:
Even if we open up to a degree social distancing is here to stay for a long time. Seeing Europe opening up a little will be a good indicator on how many flare ups are a result. That is, assuming their testing is accurate.
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Theres been a roadmap ahead if us the entire time. We failed to recognize clear warning signs. Hopefully we can find a way to see better going forward.
 
Found the Bioweapon Lab connection.

NIH and Chinese Military funded the bat study that started from 2011-2017 to find various types of coronavirus strains. There's a reference to the talents program that the criminally charged Harvard Professor (Link 3) was associated.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...t-arrested-for-concealing-ties-to-china-67037

The editor of the paper is the German guy that created the test.
https://www.dzif.de/en/researchers-develop-first-diagnostic-test-novel-coronavirus-china

Harvard Professor receives funding from NIH and DOD without disclosing conflict of interest in $1.5 million given to him by China to create Laboratory. The DOD was trying to crack down on NIH and DOD funding that was being misappropriated for the benefit of China. Also, there seems to be a concerted effort to steal research, intellectual property and virus strains for the benefit of the Chinese military.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...t-harvard-chemist-failing-disclose-china-ties

This WIV certainly had operated as a bioweapons research facility. The 2017 study was about the danger of the various strains of Coronavirus, and the Chinese Military was interested in this type of research. Even if coronavirus wasn't necessarily a bioweapon that was engineered, the media should have done some journalism on the subject instead of outright denying it as a conspiracy theory. How is it that they can only locate the cabals warning the government about the unkempt state of the laboratory, but can't piece together any of this other information? Who was the source of the cabal from the embassy office in China and where were these warnings being sent?
 
Tornadocane said:
Found the Bioweapon Lab connection.

NIH and Chinese Military funded the bat study that started from 2011-2017 to find various types of coronavirus strains. There's a reference to the talents program that the criminally charged Harvard Professor (Link 3) was associated.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...t-arrested-for-concealing-ties-to-china-67037

The editor of the paper is the German guy that created the test.
https://www.dzif.de/en/researchers-develop-first-diagnostic-test-novel-coronavirus-china

Harvard Professor receives funding from NIH and DOD without disclosing conflict of interest in $1.5 million given to him by China to create Laboratory. The DOD was trying to crack down on NIH and DOD funding that was being misappropriated for the benefit of China. Also, there seems to be a concerted effort to steal research, intellectual property and virus strains for the benefit of the Chinese military.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...t-harvard-chemist-failing-disclose-china-ties

This WIV certainly had operated as a bioweapons research facility. The 2017 study was about the danger of the various strains of Coronavirus, and the Chinese Military was interested in this type of research. Even if coronavirus wasn't necessarily a bioweapon that was engineered, the media should have done some journalism on the subject instead of outright denying it as a conspiracy theory. How is it that they can only locate the cabals warning the government about the unkempt state of the laboratory, but can't piece together any of this other information? Who was the source of the cabal from the embassy office in China and where were these warnings being sent?
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Scientists agree that SARS-CoV-2 is/was not a manufactured bioweapon because scientists have been able to determine the “design” was likely due to nature and not human design.

See here:
www.google.com

Experts know the new coronavirus is not a bioweapon. They disagree on whether it could have leaked from a research lab

Some researchers think a laboratory accident could have released the viral ancestor of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
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Think about this for a second. Most simplest reason is often the true one. These are the two most likely, with 1) being the simplest answer.

1) it was from direct bat to human contact
2) it was *accidentally* released from a lab


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Shaggy said:
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www.foxnews.com

Mutation strain from India could kill current research efforts for coronavirus vaccine: report

A coronavirus strain isolated in India carried a mutation that could render current international vaccine efforts useless, researches in Australia and Taiwan warned.
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If that’s the case then vaccine attempts may be like the flu where certain strains each year go unchecked since it’s not in the vaccine. If that indeed happens then there’s really not going to be a cure for this and it’s going to have to run it’s course, in a way that doesn’t overwhelm hospitals but also doesn’t shut down everything indefinitely.
 
www.ajc.com

Teacher: No guarantee schools can reopen. Start planning

A Cobb teacher warns that without antibody tests, treatments or a vaccine for COVID-19, students and faculty cannot safely return to brick and mortar schools in the fall. Universities are already anticipating they may have to push in-person classes to 2021 offering only online classes until then.
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snowlover91 said:
If that’s the case then vaccine attempts may be like the flu where certain strains each year go unchecked since it’s not in the vaccine. If that indeed happens then there’s really not going to be a cure for this and it’s going to have to run it’s course, in a way that doesn’t overwhelm hospitals but also doesn’t shut down everything indefinitely.
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This is what I have been saying. Eventually this road leads to the whole world facing this virus. Eventually the deaths will lessen as people get exposed to it. Just like the flu this virus is here to stay. When a vaccine is made it will be 50/50 it works. We can not live in fear of catching this virus.
 
Brent said:
I'm looking at NY vs Texas(our population is similiar) and it's crazy the difference. We only have 300 something deaths here and NY has 11k at least

We need to reopen at least some states
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I wouldn't say the population in TX and NY is similar. TX has 10 million more people than NY. So really TX should have at least 20,000 deaths if NY has over 11,000.
 
Matthew70 said:
This is what I have been saying. Eventually this road leads to the whole world facing this virus. Eventually the deaths will lessen as people get exposed to it. Just like the flu this virus is here to stay. When a vaccine is made it will be 50/50 it works. We can not live in fear of catching this virus.
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I agree, at this point there needs to be a plan to slowly open things up where feasible but in a way that manages the risk as well. I don’t think a vaccine that is effective will be viable to wait for and even if one is created in the next 12 months it may not even work if there are multiple strains of this.
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
I wouldn't say the population in TX and NY is similar. TX has 10 million more people than NY. So really TX should have at least 20,000 deaths if NY has over 11,000.
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Not really, since NY is a major international hub where the virus arrived before TX, and NYC is a densely populated urban center which is much, much more susceptible to pandemics. All else being equal, you would expect NY to be much worse hit than TX, even per capita.
 
The thought of even shutting down schools in fall and winter are absolute ridiculous. Kids lives this past school year have already been interfered with. Now the mayor of Atlanta saying again next fall maybe no schools. So let’s interfere with kids again. This is making our children scarred and scared to live their lives. The emotional damage this is doing is just wrong. We need to quit teaching our kids to live in fear of catching a virus. Especially younger children. They will have germ phobias. As has been said let’s open up slowly but once everything is opened up. Stay open. Stay the course and quit being a light switch. On/off. Stay on.
 
superjames1992 said:
Not really, since NY is a major international hub where the virus arrived before TX, and NYC is a densely populated urban center which is much, much more susceptible to pandemics. All else being equal, you would expect NY to be much worse hit than TX, even per capita.
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I still think it's pretty surprising that there hasn't been more than 393 deaths in TX. TX has like 3 or 4 major cities.
 
Matthew70 said:
The thought of even shutting down schools in fall and winter are absolute ridiculous. Kids lives this past school year have already been interfered with. Now the mayor of Atlanta saying again next fall maybe no schools. So let’s interfere with kids again. This is making our children scarred and scared to live their lives. The emotional damage this is doing is just wrong. We need to quit teaching our kids to live in fear of catching a virus. Especially younger children. They will have germ phobias. As has been said let’s open up slowly but once everything is opened up. Stay open. Stay the course and quit being a light switch. On/off. Stay on.
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How about open schools but maybe have young substitute teachers if the teacher is over 60. After all the main reason why they want to close schools is because of employees 60 and over right ?
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
I still think it's pretty surprising that there hasn't been more than 393 deaths in TX. TX has like 3 or 4 major cities.
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But none of those cities are as dense as NYC. The main advantage TX had was that the virus arrived to TX in force later, mostly after social distancing was in place. NY did not take any mitigation measures until it was too late and the virus had already spread quite a bit. Of course, that’s the disadvantage of getting hit from the European wave first.

If TX had allowed the virus to spread there with no mitigation measures in place, it would be much worse (although still likely not as bad as NY given the less concentrated demographics).

Don’t get me wrong, though. TX has seemingly done a good job. I just hope all hell doesn't break lose when the mitigation measures are lifted.
 
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Dewpoint Dan said:
How about open schools but maybe have young substitute teachers if the teacher is over 60. After all the main reason why they want to close schools is because of employees 60 and over right ?
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The main reason for closing schools is so that the children don’t serve as vectors for spreading the virus. It’s not that the kids will die - by and large, kids very rarely succumb to this virus - but they’ll spread it to their older relatives and cause a great spreading of the virus.

However, I think we really do have to start thinking of reopening schools at some point (not this school year, though). Canceling school in the fall will have long-lasting ramifications. We’re talking about missing a full year of school at that point, basically. That needs to be a last-resort option.
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
How about open schools but maybe have young substitute teachers if the teacher is over 60. After all the main reason why they want to close schools is because of employees 60 and over right ?
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Well that was the case but some say younger people can die also. Plus remember the younger ones carry it home to the older parents. In other words we are ALL going to be exposed eventually. So live in fear or live each day happily. I choose the live each day happily and not in fear.
 
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Matthew70 said:
Well that was the case but some say younger people can die also. Plus remember the younger ones carry it home to the older parents. In other words we are ALL going to be exposed eventually. So live in fear or live each day happily. I choose the love each day happily and not in fear.
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Maybe kids should just stay away from their elderly grandparents if at all possible.
 
@crecre9 you give a lot of thumbs down. Curious how would you handle this virus? What would be your plan? How long shut down? If don’t mind sharing your ideas.
 
Dewpoint Dan said:
I mean you saw what shutting down for a month did. Just imagine 18 months.
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I am not going to because there would be nothing left of America. Implosion would happen within 6 months and it would be a civil war. Basic understanding of economy. Money literally would be useless. Bartering to survive.
 
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