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The debate to the other side of the coin, Cure becoming the problem. Is legit and why we have precious time to get in front of this.

Coronavirus Latest: Man Shoots Girlfriend, Kills Self After Being Upset About Pandemic, Losing Job, Wilson Police Say
Author: CBS3 Staff
March 31, 2020 at 6:40 pm
Filed Under: coronavirus, Local, Local TV, Roderick Bliss, Wilson news, Wilson Police
 
Jon said:
The CDC recommending all public wear masks is a hell of a correction to make after saying they don’t help unless you’re sick and trying to keep from infecting others.




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This is very much akin to the big banks unloading bad MBS during the financial crisis before finally marking swaps correctly.

It was complete BS when the CDC originally said it. We knew it and they knew it. That's exactly what I mean by corruption. This pandemic is exposing, I mean really exposing, the ideals of the rich and powerful and the rest of us. I think in the end, they are going to regret where this leads.
 
NCSNOW said:
The debate to the other side of the coin, Cure becoming the problem. Is legit and why we have precious time to get in front of this.

Coronavirus Latest: Man Shoots Girlfriend, Kills Self After Being Upset About Pandemic, Losing Job, Wilson Police Say
Author: CBS3 Staff
March 31, 2020 at 6:40 pm
Filed Under: coronavirus, Local, Local TV, Roderick Bliss, Wilson news, Wilson Police
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I would think this will be far from the norm unless this ---- goes walking dead pandemic. This guy must have been on the edge already
 
NCSNOW said:
The debate to the other side of the coin, Cure becoming the problem. Is legit and why we have precious time to get in front of this.

Coronavirus Latest: Man Shoots Girlfriend, Kills Self After Being Upset About Pandemic, Losing Job, Wilson Police Say
Author: CBS3 Staff
March 31, 2020 at 6:40 pm
Filed Under: coronavirus, Local, Local TV, Roderick Bliss, Wilson news, Wilson Police
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When i saw Wilson i figured it was in NC but it looks like it was Wilson, PA.
 
Broken024 said:
I would think this will be far from the norm unless this poop goes walking dead pandemic. This guy must have been on the edge already
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Guess it depends on what you mean by on the edge. I feel like a lot of us are on the edge... losing a job during an economic and health crisis is a lot to handle. Hopefully people can get through this. We have a long way to go and I know plenty of people that aren’t in a good place mentally right now...that’s some scary stuff to be inside alone with your demons without a lot of human contact. It doesn’t take long to fall into severe debilitating anxiety and depression. It could only take weeks.

This reminds me to say, if you know someone who lives alone and is laid off...reach out, they may just need someone to talk to right now.
 
Broken024 said:
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Yes. Nothing is guaranteed, but the numbers would need to exceed 8,000 a day on average to get to 58,000 in the next seven days. Every day it doesn't exceed that number, the deficit of required deaths increases. Today, it was 4,300. Yeah. I'm sure about the bet.
 
Broken024 said:
I would think this will be far from the norm unless this poop goes walking dead pandemic. This guy must have been on the edge already
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I agree. But when we get to May 1st, a recipe for unrest will have been brewing for 6 plus weeks . With criminals on release, releif money runing out for millions unemployed due to shut down. Big crossroad where tough decessions are gonna have to be made. Problem is no matter which one we chose as a nation, its gonna cost lives. Question will be which one will cost the least.
 
Jon said:
Guess it depends on what you mean by on the edge. I feel like a lot of us are on the edge... losing a job during an economic and health crisis is a lot to handle. Hopefully people can get through this. We have a long way to go and I know plenty of people that aren’t in a good place mentally right now...that’s some scary stuff to be inside alone with your demons without a lot of human contact. It doesn’t take long to fall into severe debilitating anxiety and depression. It could only take weeks.

This reminds me to say, if you know someone who lives alone and is laid off...reach out, they may just need someone to talk to right now.
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What i mean is 99.9% of people dont shoot their girlfriend when they lose job. He must have has serious issues
 
Tornadocane said:
Yes. Nothing is guaranteed, but the numbers would need to exceed 8,000 a day on average to get to 58,000 in the next seven days. Every day it doesn't exceed that number, the deficit of required deaths increases. Today, it was 4,300. Yeah. I'm sure about the bet.
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Sorry I was talking worldwide 200k. Already pushing 50k today. It was around 10-15k about a week ago.
 
NCSNOW said:
I agree. But when we get to May 1st, a recipe for unrest will have been brewing for 6 plus weeks . With criminals on release, releif money runing out for millions unemployed due to shut down. Big crossroad where tough decessions are gonna have to be made. Problem is no matter which one we chose as a nation, its gonna cost lives. Question will be which one will cost the least.
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Are you asking if the virus or social disorder will cost more lives? It's easily the virus unless the food chain supply stops which there is no indication of happening now
 
NCSNOW said:
I agree. But when we get to May 1st, a recipe for unrest will have been brewing for 6 plus weeks . With criminals on release, releif money runing out for millions unemployed due to shut down. Big crossroad where tough decessions are gonna have to be made. Problem is no matter which one we chose as a nation, its gonna cost lives. Question will be which one will cost the least.
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Cant win either way really. Shut down the economy and lives will be saved, but there will more murders, depression, anxiety, hopelessness.
 
tazaroo said:
Look, you can believe whatever you want. Obviously you hate President Trump, just like I mentioned in my post we all have our biasis. I gave you a direct quote from Dr Fauci when he didn't think it was a problem. It took awhile before he changed his tune. I sure sure don't remember him and Trump having big disagreements. It doesn't matter what I say as you obviously are not going to change your mind. He was most likely trying to stay optimistic. The intelligence committee, both parties, must have known it would at least cause stocks to fall, I give you that.

I don't appreciate appreciate you calling my post bs. I have my opinion and you have yours.
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Opinions and facts aren't necessarily equal.
 
NCSNOW said:
189,000 + US Cases.
3,889 deaths.

Cal and Washington state have flattened their curve. Ny,Nj straight up. NY has 1550 of the 3889 deaths.

0.06 is our est mortality rate. China was 4 %, Italy 11% to put in perspective. .000001 is 1 to many though.
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Did you mean .6%?
 
Poimen said:
The problem that Trump has is that his words condemn him and he absolutely refuses to take any responsibility for his actions. He needs to learn that when he speaks, people take note. He needs to learn how to be much more guarded with his language--that would solve many of his problems. But I doubt he will do it.
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He literally said about two weeks ago "I am not responsible." The president of the United States saying that he is not responsible and the buck doesn't stop with him. I can't even process that, let alone those who still think he has handled this or anything well
 
The true number of deaths from economic collapse is unknown. I'm monitoring the situation in Spain and Italy carefully. People are running out of food in those countries. Nobody really prepared around the south Florida area. I just went to my local publix and cleaned out some shelves. It was packed and 99% of the people were not wearing protective gear like gloves or masks. I'm now more worried about the social breakdown rather than the coronavirus. I see it coming.
 
Sandbar said:
I appreciate your efforts and pray for your safety. Been there and done that for over a decade fighting a different battle. His response has nothing to do with the impact your are feeling right now and you know this. You were going to be in this fight either way unfortunately so if you want to be pissed at somebody, be pissed at those who dont support his administrations efforts with a desire to see him fail. There are plenty on this board alone and I dont even have to point them out. You absolutely have the right to criticize but "qoutes" are a poor reason. Based on the things I have been privy to, you could have been in a hall of a lot worse position than you are now. Im sorry if you dont believe that.....be safe and thank you for your sacrifice. I know all to well whats it like to put you life in peril.
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Really, who on this board wants to see the administration fail? Name and shame.
Also, words have meaning. Especially the words of the people in power. It is absolutely appropriate to criticize over impactful and illuminating quotes.
 
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Broken024 said:
Over/under 200k deaths by next Tuesday?
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I'd go way under. Deaths are doubling in a little over under a week now, so I'd estimate 90,000-100,000 worldwide by this time next week (from 42,158 presently). 200,000 will probably happen by the following week, however.
 
I don't trust anything coming out of the left-wing regarding coronavirus. So many left-wing media outlets are facing defamation suits relating to coverage over the last three years. CNN just had to settle with a child because they defamed a child wearing a MAGA hat. MSNBC is facing a lawsuit right now by OEN for saying they are "really literally [] paid Russian Propaganda" despite being funded by an American family. Their hate for Trump has caused them to become sloppy, and I see that same sloppiness with their coverage of the coronavirus, especially when it is related to Trump.
 
Now I'm scratching my head. The UW model yesterday had AL at 1173 deaths with 37 deaths per day max, staying well under hospital bed max and only needing 70 ICU beds. This mornings update, despite doing much better than previous model projections, has 7334 deaths, a max of 314 deaths per day and overwhelming hospitals by 26,000 and ICU by 4,500.

And we complain about the GFS....

Edit: BTW that is 7 times as many deaths as its projecting MS and 3 times GA.

Edit 2: I see the issue now, they added the extra deaths they had been investigating in the same day which jumped the daily total and skewed the numbers.
 
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Arcc said:
Now I'm scratching my head. The UW model yesterday had AL at 1173 deaths with 37 deaths per day max, staying well under hospital bed max and only needing 70 ICU beds. This mornings update, despite doing much better than previous model projections, has 7334 deaths, a max of 314 deaths per day and overwhelming hospitals by 26,000 and ICU by 4,500.

And we complain about the GFS....

Edit: BTW that is 7 times as many deaths as its projecting MS and 3 times GA.

Edit 2: I see the issue now, they added the extra deaths they had been investigating in the same day which jumped the daily total and skewed the numbers.
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Do you have a link to this model?
 
LetItSnow said:
2017 and 2018 Deaths in the US

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And don't forget the approximately 850,000 children who were killed before they were born each year for 2017 and 2018
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They’re not children until they’re born. That’s not a political statement, that’s a medical statement. It is a fetus until delivered. Medical fact. Also if it were considered a child while in utero, you could claim it on taxes.
 
With the thought that this fall there could be a second wave of coronavirus, is it possible that it could in any way affect the elections? What I am referring to specifically is for the ability of people to go out and vote. If a big second wave happens is it possible the election could be delayed or would they just have people vote anyways despite the risks? This is NOT a political question but simply on what may happen with the voting process if a big 2nd wave does occur.
 
tramadoc said:
They’re not children until they’re born. That’s not a political statement, that’s a medical statement. It is a fetus until delivered. Medical fact. Also if it were considered a child while in utero, you could claim it on taxes.
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Ill stick with the Bible/Gods definition:
Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;
 
snowlover91 said:
With the thought that this fall there could be a second wave of coronavirus, is it possible that it could in any way affect the elections? What I am referring to specifically is for the ability of people to go out and vote. If a big second wave happens is it possible the election could be delayed or would they just have people vote anyways despite the risks? This is NOT a political question but simply on what may happen with the voting process if a big 2nd wave does occur.
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Personally I cant think of how that would even be legal or possible.....I have to see if there is even guidelines in the Constitution to allow such a thing to occur.
 
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