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Perhaps you somebody should let the 38 States who have fetal homicide laws on the books of which a majority use the term unborn child know.

Children killed before they were born was the exact language I used, why don't you read instead of being so quick to try and show how smart you think you are, appears that's the theme for a small segment of posters on here.

Edit to strikethrough personal comment but leave it since I did say it.
 
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snowlover91 said:
With the thought that this fall there could be a second wave of coronavirus, is it possible that it could in any way affect the elections? What I am referring to specifically is for the ability of people to go out and vote. If a big second wave happens is it possible the election could be delayed or would they just have people vote anyways despite the risks? This is NOT a political question but simply on what may happen with the voting process if a big 2nd wave does occur.
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They need to have mail in voting as an option nationwide. In any event, even if they didn't hold the election for some reason, the term ends as specified in the Constitution. So he wouldn't be able to stay on past the date. So I would assume the standard succession lines would be done and as the VPs term would be done too would mean it would go to the Speaker of the House.
 
Steven_1974 said:
They need to have mail in voting as an option nationwide. In any event, even if they didn't hold the election for some reason, the term ends as specified in the Constitution. So he wouldn't be able to stay on past the date. So I would assume the standard succession lines would be done and as the VPs term would be done too would mean it would go to the Speaker of the House.
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An election will be held no matter what. It would take federal law to postpone it. If there is any question it will be how its held not if
 
LetItSnow said:
Perhaps you should let the 38 States who have fetal homicide laws on the books of which a majority use the term unborn child know.

Children killed before they were born was the exact language I used, why don't you read instead of being so quick to try and show how smart you think you are, appears that's the theme for a small segment of posters on here.
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this is the coronavirus thread, not political or religious
 
Yesterday as the Doctors where showing the graphs with 100,000-200,000 deaths . Keep in mind this is based off multiple other large metros yielding the same results as we currently see in NYC.
Also I beleive this is the forecast throughout, wave 2 into next fall, till the very end. Not the next 2 to 4 weeks. If Im off here please correct me.
If we can keep NO,Detroit,LA,SF,Atl down, that will help us not reach 100,000 mark. Right now LA and SF are doing better than I expected. NO and Detroit are 2 areas to really watch. Hopefully Atlanta doesnt get lumped into this convo.
 
Sandbar said:
An election will be held no matter what. It would take federal law to postpone it. If there is any question it will be how its held not if
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We held elections during the Civil War and both world wars. An election will have to be held, like you said.

And can we not do abortion in this thread? This thread is contentious enough as it is..
 
snowlover91 said:
With the thought that this fall there could be a second wave of coronavirus, is it possible that it could in any way affect the elections? What I am referring to specifically is for the ability of people to go out and vote. If a big second wave happens is it possible the election could be delayed or would they just have people vote anyways despite the risks? This is NOT a political question but simply on what may happen with the voting process if a big 2nd wave does occur.
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It would be a huge mistake to attempt to delay the election. We either vote as normal or find a new method that doesn't require polling places where people gather.
I believe you could assume anything else is a naked usurping of our democracy.
 
LetItSnow said:
Perhaps you should let the 38 States who have fetal homicide laws on the books of which a majority use the term unborn child know.

Children killed before they were born was the exact language I used, why don't you read instead of being so quick to try and show how smart you think you are, appears that's the theme for a small segment of posters on here.
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Wasn’t trying to be quick and show how smart I am. Making a statement of medical fact. Why don’t you try opening a medical book and reading. If you want, I can make drawings and monosyllabic words for you with a crayon so you can better understand it.
 
Steven_1974 said:
They need to have mail in voting as an option nationwide. In any event, even if they didn't hold the election for some reason, the term ends as specified in the Constitution. So he wouldn't be able to stay on past the date. So I would assume the standard succession lines would be done and as the VPs term would be done too would mean it would go to the Speaker of the House.
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Maybe they will let us vote via text.
 
superjames1992 said:
We held elections during the Civil War and both world wars. An election will have to be held, like you said.

And can we not do abortion in this thread? This thread is contentious enough as it is..
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I was just refuting a statement that was made with a statement of medical fact and terminology. Some people get their panties in a wad if they feel like their feelings were hurt even though it was just a statement and not directed at them personally.
 
First Wilkes County corona death today. Of 2 cases. 50% death rate folks.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Don't forget about the part where you just put words in my mouth.

Hold up, you mean to tell me that with my two years of actual on-the-job experience, I can actually & rightfully say I probably know a lot more than you do about emergency management? What a revelation!

Oh, let's also not forget, you were the one that took it upon yourself and went completely out of your way to personally attack and lecture me about the incident command system.

You're adorable.
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I am just wondering what do you actually get from trying to prove you are smarter than others with every post you make. Just stop, crap gets old quick.
 
I seen first hand another example of the economic trouble with the lock down. About twenty buzzards were fighting over a dead opossum. I realize pickings have been slim recently. #feedthebuzzards

In serious news, love Trump or hate Trump, people listen. At least here there is a noticeable difference in traffic this morning.
 
covid19.healthdata.org

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
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One thing I've noticed about the model (since I first started paying attention) is its trending later on peak resource usage. The nationwide peak is now Apr 16, but that's drifted later from a few days ago. NC is now showing a peak on Apr 27, but a few days ago was Apr 24. I assume other states are experiencing the same thing.

I guess you could argue it's a good thing because it gives us more time to prepare, but it also means it could take longer to get things back to normal.
 
tramadoc said:
I was just refuting a statement that was made with a statement of medical fact and terminology. Some people get their panties in a wad if they feel like their feelings were hurt even though it was just a statement and not directed at them personally.
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Actually it appears some people have to make a comment or statement whenever somebody post something on here they disagree with; you can take your medical terminology and feel good about yourself if you'd like; I'll take exactly what I posted and know exactly what I said and look myself in the mirror every single day when I wake up if the good Lord blesses me with another day.
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
covid19.healthdata.org

IHME | COVID-19 Projections

Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.
covid19.healthdata.org covid19.healthdata.org
One thing I've noticed about the model (since I first started paying attention) is its trending later on peak resource usage. The nationwide peak is now Apr 16, but that's drifted later from a few days ago. NC is now showing a peak on Apr 27, but a few days ago was Apr 24. I assume other states are experiencing the same thing.

I guess you could argue it's a good thing because it gives us more time to prepare, but it also means it could take longer to get things back to normal.
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I’ve come to the conclusion that it is garbage. Doing some thinking and calculating today. Yesterday it had Alabama peaking at 1134 deaths overall and peaking at 37 deaths a day on April 20th. Assuming a ten day lag in deaths and a fatality rate among known cases of 2% or 20/1000. By April 10 we should be logging confirmed rates of close to 2,000 a day to get to the 37 deaths a day.

The rates we have today are just beginning to show the results of “closing all nonessential businesses” with possibly more restrictions coming and the fact that BHM is shelter in place.

The model could end up correct, but I’m guessing it’s vastly overstated or completely garbage on peak times. Not to mention it is seemly based mostly on daily deaths for calculations.
 
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LetItSnow said:
Actually it appears some people have to make a comment or statement whenever somebody post something on here they disagree with; you can take your medical terminology and feel good about yourself if you'd like; I'll take exactly what I posted and know exactly what I said and look myself in the mirror every single day when I wake up if the good Lord blesses me with another day.
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Take that stuff to the Religious thread. Some of us here are not religious and don't care to see it in this thread.
 
LetItSnow said:
Actually it appears some people have to make a comment or statement whenever somebody post something on here they disagree with; you can take your medical terminology and feel good about yourself if you'd like; I'll take exactly what I posted and know exactly what I said and look myself in the mirror every single day when I wake up if the good Lord blesses me with another day.
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I’m Catholic and believe in God, but quit proselytizing and take it to the religion thread.

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LetItSnow said:
Actually it appears some people have to make a comment or statement whenever somebody post something on here they disagree with; you can take your medical terminology and feel good about yourself if you'd like; I'll take exactly what I posted and know exactly what I said and look myself in the mirror every single day when I wake up if the good Lord blesses me with another day.
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This thread is not the time and place to spout your personal views on religion and abortion.

Thanks in advance,

Everyone.
 
ryan1234 said:
www.fox13news.com

Tampa megachurch crowded with worshipers, despite social distancing orders

Cheers and applause could be heard on a Tampa megachurch's livestream Sunday from a few hundred people inside The River at Tampa Bay Church. The church is refusing to close its doors despite a "safer at home" order in effect in Hillsborough County.
www.fox13news.com www.fox13news.com

THIS... this right here is why the gov't is stepping in and "taking away civil rights" according to some of you. I am glad he's going to jail.
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Too many Christian's play the victim card too much.
CamWX said:
Take that stuff to the Religious thread. Some of us here are not religious and don't care to see it in this thread.
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While I agree that there are separate threads for reasons.. some people do not understand that religion informs all our decisions even about the virus.
 
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Speaking of the elections, it's useful to look back at how the states decided to handle the November 1918 mid-term elections.

Nebraska is one example. It appears that they chose...poorly.
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www.nytimes.com

The Lessons of the Elections of 1918 (Published 2020)

A nation ravaged by the Spanish flu figured out how to vote back then. Not without incident, but with democracy intact.
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I’d like to see a way that we keep our Democratic Republic’s collective regulations as far as our elected officials are concerned, intact. So far as the elections go, this is a cornerstone of our Democratic process and it must not be violated. Coronavirus be damned. The elections must go on, one way or another.
 
My question is how has the official doomsday clock not moved or been talked about with this pandemic?
 
Arcc said:
I’ve come to the conclusion that it is garbage. Doing some thinking and calculating today. Yesterday it had Alabama peaking at 1134 deaths overall and peaking at 37 deaths a day on April 20th. Assuming a ten day lag in deaths and a fatality rate among known cases of 2% or 20/1000. By April 10 we should be logging confirmed rates of close to 2,000 a day to get to the 37 deaths a day.

The rates we have today are just beginning to show the results of “closing all nonessential businesses” with possibly more restrictions coming and the fact that BHM is shelter in place.

The model could end up correct, but I’m guessing it’s vastly overstated or completely garbage on peak times. Not to mention it is seemly based mostly on daily deaths for calculations.
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I think saying its garbage may be a step too far. It might simply be fine tuning its predictions as more data is gathered. I hesitate to argue too strongly for/against, until we see how this thing verifies.

I will say its currently predicting 93,765 deaths by 8/4/20, which is lower than the 100k-200k stated by the President and his advisors. Maybe they are basing estimates on another model, or assuming this one will trend upward. Or some of those deaths could occur after August? I dunno.
 
Well given how political this virus is with China and the Russia gas war and war breaking out with Egypt I would think it would at least be mentioned about moving the clock.
 
BirdManDoomW said:
Well given how political this virus is with China and the Russia gas war and war breaking out with Egypt I would think it would at least be mentioned about moving the clock.
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Listen to the words in the songs video I posted. One of the last lines is about making a better kind of germ.
 
Yeah I hope election officials are planning now on what to do if we have a 2nd wave of this in the fall around election time. If it’s a bad wave or similar to this one, having people across the country gathering to vote could be very risky/deadly. Not sure if they can come up with a better system, perhaps where people could vote electronically from home or something like that. Hopefully we don’t have a second wave or we have a better solution to deal with it if so.
 
GaWx said:
I’m a full believer in the Almighty and am against abortion. But religion/abortion obviously does not belong in here.
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People who have zero medical knowledge nor experience should NEVER be allowed to decide what can and cannot be practiced by a doctor or what a person can decide they want for their own body. IE politicians with a church in their wallet. Some women cannot safely bring a baby to full term.
 
snowlover91 said:
Yeah I hope election officials are planning now on what to do if we have a 2nd wave of this in the fall around election time. If it’s a bad wave or similar to this one, having people across the country gathering to vote could be very risky/deadly. Not sure if they can come up with a better system, perhaps where people could vote electronically from home or something like that. Hopefully we don’t have a second wave or we have a better solution to deal with it if so.
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Mostly old people vote so they will focus on absentee ballots more. Young people never turn out anyway and the majority of Americans don’t vote so I don’t think this is going to be a big issue other than the media hype.
 
Disco_Lemonade said:
People who have zero medical knowledge nor experience should NEVER be allowed to decide what can and cannot be practiced by a doctor or what a person can decide they want for their own body. IE politicians with a church in their wallet. Some women cannot safely bring a baby to full term.
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Wrong thread.
 
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