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Heelyes said:
We aren't even testing sick people for this virus, how can we know it's not everywhere? My buddy is a Dr. and he said the only way you get tested is if you have been to Asia recently and have symptoms... he is worried about bringing this to his home. The best way to hide a outbreak is to not test for it.
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Exactly. Plus we don’t have correct numbers. China labeled many deaths as complications from Pneumonia. Not the virus itself which caused the virus. Same way probably many govts will cover up.
 
Snowfan said:
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Yep. Called it. :) I knew when they put California under a a state of emergency, it was only a matter of time till they announced what I'm sure they already knew. Bet additional cases will start magically appearing now. NY probably next.
 
Heelyes said:
Backlash from the world over 2000 preventable flu deaths? China has millions of Muslims locked up and children making our products with no backlash. This is a country that probably has 2000 people die from AC units falling out of windows on people every year.
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Yes, but China has already scared the world due to SARS which they hid and the several H5N1 bird flu cases throughout the years. People in other countries don't care about window units killing Chinese, they do care about China botching another pandemic and killing their children and destroying their life. News media loves pandemics and the Swine flu proved it gets hits.
 
tramadoc said:
I think we have a better hold on how to stop the spread of viruses in the modern world (at least in the more developed countries) than we did in the early 1900’s.

I don’t think you will see this reach the proportions that the Spanish Flu did. There were so many extenuating circumstances with that. Of course today air travel is a thing so there’s that, but once again I go back to common sense prevention techniques. The problem is two words. COMMON and SENSE. It seems that a large segment of the population have none. It’s either that or a willful disregard for their fellow man. I’m not sure whether it’s ignorance or apathy. TBH, I don’t know and I don’t care. LOL
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On one hand, I agree with you. But on the other hand, over and over history has shown us the spectacular failure of this way of thinking. This time is different, because we're so much smarter now.
 
Rain Cold said:
Yep. Called it. :) I knew when the put California under a a state of emergency, it was only a matter of time till they announced what I'm sure they already knew. Bet additional cases will start magically appearing now. NY probably next.
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Yeah, it's here and probably widespread, just have to wait and see what it does.
 
Arcc said:
Yes, but China has already scared the world due to SARS which they hid and the several H5N1 bird flu cases throughout the years. People in other countries don't care about window units killing Chinese, they do care about China botching another pandemic and killing their children and destroying their life. News media loves pandemics and the Swine flu proved it gets hits.
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China has never acted this way before, no country has in the history of the world. I hope it's not what it seems
 
Heelyes said:
China has never acted this way before, no country has in the history of the world. I hope it's not what it seems
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I think it is partly because it did get out of a lab. I think that theory is correct. It may not have been a bio-weapons lab, and just a research lab but the risk is still high. If it is a research lab, who says they don't get a contagious strain of H5N1 released due to negligence. If it did get out of any lab, they will stop at nothing to hide it.
 
Hopefully no big deal but my worry is people get sick with pneumonia and we run outta antibiotics and intravenous fluids to treat them. What happens when you are watching someone die and nothing can be done? Especially if parents watch there kids die? Ones with immune troubles like from chemo? Bitterness and anger I’m sure will happen.
 
Arcc said:
I think it is partly because it did get out of a lab. I think that theory is correct. It may not have been a bio-weapons lab, and just a research lab but the risk is still high. If it is a research lab, who says they don't get a contagious strain of H5N1 released due to negligence. If it did get out of any lab, they will stop at nothing to hide it.
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It's hard to know if it being man made is a good thing. There could be a cure if it is or it could be captain Tripps
 
Matthew70 said:
Hopefully no big deal but my worry is people get sick with pneumonia and we run outta antibiotics and intravenous fluids to treat them. What happens when you are watching someone die and nothing can be done? Especially if parents watch there kids die? Ones with immune troubles like from chemo? Bitterness and anger I’m sure will happen.
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Viral pneumonia doesn't respond to antibiotics
 
It's strange what's happening in Iran. They are not aware of the total cases or it's a much more deadly mutation. They have 19 deaths with under 100 infected
 
Something else strange is the number of cases in Europe that are tied to Italy is more than those from china. Why is it so contagious in the few documented cases we have outside of China? It seems like there should be more confirmed cases that are traced back to China but there isn't much. It's hard to believe that one person infected everyone they were around on a remote ski lodge in France but nobody in China Town is sick. One sick man infected a whole cruise ship but nobody got it to America by plane?
 
I've been taking NAC for couple of yrs. It can help with the flu and protect the lungs. I'm not a dr so y'all can google it. It's a sulfur based supplement.
 
tramadoc said:
No viruses respond to antibiotics.
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And thanks to the general public asking their GP’s for antibiotics to treat a sore throat and other such things that don’t respond to antibiotics, we’ve made (unintentionally) strains of infections that don’t respond to regular antibiotics. You’re finding more cases of MRSA, CPE, and VRE that we’re having to treat with high powered agents such as quinupristin-dalfopristin, linezolid, and daptomycin.
 
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tramadoc said:
And thanks to the general public asking their GP’s for antibiotics to treat a sore throat and other such things that don’t respond to antibiotics, we’ve made (unintentionally) strains of infections that don’t respond to regular antibiotics. You’re finding more cases of MRSA, CPE, and VRE that we’re having to treat with high powered agents such as quinupristin-dalfopristin, linezolid, and daptomycin.
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Edit: And Daptomycin does not treat pneumonia caused by MRSA so there’s another bag of worms there.
 
Coronavirus in my opinion is gonna be the new virus that probably will turn seasonal after it explodes, it’ll get worse during winter as people stay together more and slow down in the summer, but the amount of severe cases will go down as there will be a little immunity, and medicines/anti-virals will likely be developed in the next months to years, that’s my opinion, even if warmth/cold has nothing to do with it, people wild likely get it more during the winter Becuase like I said that’s when people often stay inside more, H1N1 is like that, norovirus is like that, you can still get it in the summer but it’s more prevalent in the winter from schools/daycares and like what I said before
 
Windergawx said:
Hong kong is giving 10000 to each permanent resident over the age of 18 as relief package

Is there any source for this?
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It's 10,000 HKD, which is about 1,300 USD.
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Heelyes said:
So you think it's a bioweapon? You are one of the only people on this board with medical experience and I value your opinion.
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Bioweapon is a stretch. These scientist say it has natural origins. Failed BL4 protocols allowing it to escape a research lab is plausible.

www.sciencemag.org

Scientists ‘strongly condemn’ rumors and conspiracy theories about origin of coronavirus outbreak

A statement in The Lancet assails misinformation about the possibility that COVID-19 came from a lab in Wuhan, China
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Shaggy said:
Bioweapon is a stretch. These scientist say it has natural origins. Failed BL4 protocols allowing it to escape a research lab is plausible.

www.sciencemag.org

Scientists ‘strongly condemn’ rumors and conspiracy theories about origin of coronavirus outbreak

A statement in The Lancet assails misinformation about the possibility that COVID-19 came from a lab in Wuhan, China
www.sciencemag.org www.sciencemag.org
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So is this better or worse than a bioweapon? I assume most bioweapon have a vaccine or treatment or they wouldn't make sense to use.
 
Yellow Snow said:
It came from Brandon Judd, President of the NBPC (the union that represents Border Patrol agents).

See the video at 3:28 --
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Washington Journal: Brandon Judd Discusses Immigration & Border Control Policy

National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd talked about the Trump administration's approach to border control.
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Given unions and other interest groups are politically skewed, misrepresentation or altering facts or just fabricating reaction stories often are used by then to fool people into making them good for authority or their idea being a good one.
 
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