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When the first 3 days of the virus thread has more pages than the first 3 days of the January thread had..
Yellow Snow said:
Cold comfort - the current 2.3% mortality rate is similar to that of the Spanish Flu, and ~30 million people worldwide were dead by the time that pandemic was done.
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Study of 72,000 COVID-19 patients finds 2.3% death rate

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Today’s population is almost quadruple what it was 100 years ago.. almost as many people living in China today as there were on the planet 100 years ago..(1.9 billion on the planet in 1918 compared to 1.4 billion in China today)

Puts our population into perspective. Boom is an understatement.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
When the first 3 days of the virus thread has more pages than the first 3 days of the January thread had..

Today’s population is almost quadruple what it was 100 years ago.. almost as many people living in China today as there were on the planet 100 years ago..(1.9 billion on the planet in 1918 compared to 1.4 billion in China today)

Puts our population into perspective. Boom is an understatement.
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2700 deaths doesn't seem like a good reason to shut down a country of 1.4 billion.
 
BackThePack said:
Looks like "Jon" mentioned he had a doctorate in the medical field. Not sure what exactly. Also, Webb "almost has a masters" in atmospheric science?
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That makes Eric a scientist. I don’t know what Jon does. Webb is quite adept at understanding the terminology, but I’m not sure he’s up to speed on virology and epidemiology. He could be, but what do I know?
 
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everyone panic!!!


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And also people like myself that are immuno-compromised. I lost my spleen after a violent car accident that nearly took me off this earth and I also have Stage 1 CLL. Don’t fcking breath on me. Also, get your little semen demons immunized. It’s the proper thing to do. Unless you like investing in little caskets.
 
Arcc said:
I wouldn’t put too much trust in those numbers just yet. Such as the critically ill stat of only 50% survival rate. While 50% in Wuhan, it is 100% so far in Singapore.
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I hope that remains the case, but there are less than 100 confirmed cases in Singapore so far - much too small a sample size to be dispositive of anything one way or the other.
 
N95 masks and proper use of hand washing/antibacterial soaps/hand sterilizing gel, along with quarantining in home those that have the virus should help stop the spread. But good luck getting a bunch of people who don’t give a flying --- about other people to follow that regimen.
 
Jon said:
If this is a repeat of the Spanish flu I’d eat the biggest crow you can find.


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I think we have a better hold on how to stop the spread of viruses in the modern world (at least in the more developed countries) than we did in the early 1900’s.

I don’t think you will see this reach the proportions that the Spanish Flu did. There were so many extenuating circumstances with that. Of course today air travel is a thing so there’s that, but once again I go back to common sense prevention techniques. The problem is two words. COMMON and SENSE. It seems that a large segment of the population have none. It’s either that or a willful disregard for their fellow man. I’m not sure whether it’s ignorance or apathy. TBH, I don’t know and I don’t care. LOL
 
tramadoc said:
N95 masks and proper use of hand washing/antibacterial soaps/hand sterilizing gel, along with quarantining in home those that have the virus should help stop the spread. But good luck getting a bunch of people who don’t give a flying --- about other people to follow that regimen.
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Good luck finding any N95 masks right now - I've been shopping for them on Amazon for the past hour and most suppliers are sold out already. The few that still have some for sale are charging outrageous prices; a 30 pack is going for over 200 bucks ?

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Yellow Snow said:
Good luck finding any N95 masks right now - I've been shopping for them on Amazon for the past hour and most suppliers are sold out already. The few that still have some for sale are charging outrageous prices; a 30 pack is going for over 200 bucks

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I grabbed a box out of the supply room. OK’d it beforehand of course. I usually keep four or five in my truck for “in case of ----”.
 
We aren't even testing sick people for this virus, how can we know it's not everywhere? My buddy is a Dr. and he said the only way you get tested is if you have been to Asia recently and have symptoms... he is worried about bringing this to his home. The best way to hide a outbreak is to not test for it.
 
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"U.S. molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright expressed concern of previous escapes of the SARS virus at Chinese laboratories in Beijing"

Imo, this definitely lends some credibility to the idea that the coronavirus could have originated in a lab and not at a food market (which didn't sell bats mind you and required an intermediate species to transmit the disease), even though some have immediately dismissed this as conspiracy theory. Given the lack of transparency from the Chinese government from the very beginning, I can certainly see why so many are skeptical of the leading theory on CoV-19's origins.
 
Yellow Snow said:
Good luck finding any N95 masks right now - I've been shopping for them on Amazon for the past hour and most suppliers are sold out already. The few that still have some for sale are charging outrageous prices; a 30 pack is going for over 200 bucks ?

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Yep import suppliers are telling me July and any domestic supplier is likely only releasing allocated quantities to key accounts.

Starting to get a lot of rumors in the supply chain world about blank sailings for steamship lines because there isn't enough cargo to justify calling on certain Asian ports and Chinese mfgs forcing reexports of ppe back to China from the US. #eyerollgif
 
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"U.S. molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright expressed concern of previous escapes of the SARS virus at Chinese laboratories in Beijing"

Imo, this definitely lends some credibility to the idea that the coronavirus could have originated in a lab and not at a food market (which didn't sell bats mind you and required an intermediate species to transmit the disease), even though some have immediately dismissed this as conspiracy theory. Given the lack of transparency from the Chinese government from the very beginning, I can certainly see why so many are skeptical of the leading theory on CoV-19's origins.
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I posted a NY Daily News article a couple of days ago saying this.
 
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"U.S. molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright expressed concern of previous escapes of the SARS virus at Chinese laboratories in Beijing"

Imo, this definitely lends some credibility to the idea that the coronavirus could have originated in a lab and not at a food market (which didn't sell bats mind you and required an intermediate species to transmit the disease), even though some have immediately dismissed this as conspiracy theory. Given the lack of transparency from the Chinese government from the very beginning, I can certainly see why so many are skeptical of the leading theory on CoV-19's origins.
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It's just the flu, nothing to see here. If this is a bioweapon all bets are off, anything is possible. Iran and south Korea are at the same stage Wuhan was a month ago
 
SD said:
Yep import suppliers are telling me July and any domestic supplier is likely only releasing allocated quantities to key accounts.

Starting to get a lot of rumors in the supply chain world about blank sailings for steamship lines because there isn't enough cargo to justify calling on certain Asian ports and Chinese mfgs forcing reexports of ppe back to China from the US. #eyerollgif
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It's not just these products, everything comes from China. Medical equipment, medicine, vitamins, and too many other things to list. I think a majority of all medical supplies come from China
 
Broken024 said:
New California case with no travel or known source. Not good.
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Not quite. If we start getting small pops here and there it increases the chance that it's already spreading rapidly but that many are either asymptomatic or have a mild cases where they don't know they are sick. While bad on the containment side, it would be good on both the public and economic impact side. Lots of things to watch.
 
Heelyes said:
I can't figure out why China overreacted, it's just like the flu. Everyone just needs to wash their hands and we should be good by spring
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I can think of lots of reasons China would react like they did. Can you imagine the world backlash if due to negligence alone 2000 people died of a flu like virus? They absolutely must make this appear dire in any case to pitch to the public and the world that they know what they are doing. Even more so if this did get out of a research lab.
 
Arcc said:
I can think of lots of reasons China would react like they did. Can you imagine the world backlash if due to negligence alone 2000 people died of a flu like virus? They absolutely must make this appear dire in any case to pitch to the public and the world that they know what they are doing. Even more so if this did get out of a research lab.
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Backlash from the world over 2000 preventable flu deaths? China has millions of Muslims locked up and children making our products with no backlash. This is a country that probably has 2000 people die from AC units falling out of windows on people every year.
 
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