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Look it’s his opinion. I also agree with him. Everyone has a right to their opinions. No reason to get ugly. Just because you don’t agree means he has to believe you. What does it matter if he thinks that. It’s not going to change what is happening. Let’s just listen and believe what we want. Also don’t try to impose our thinking on others.
Pretty much. By perfect virus, I mean it's combination of properties: highly infectious, long periods of asymptomatic spread, can survive well outside the body, has a significant serious complication rate, but it's lethality isn't so high that it essentially kills itself off. If you (general you) don't think things like this are worked on in labs all over, then you have your head in the sand.

That doesn't mean what I said about it coming out of a lab is correct. I mean, we could have drawn the inside straight flush of the mutation out of a bat followed by the mutation out of a snake followed by a mutation out of a human followed by an instant pandemic. But if I were interested in ever developing a virus that could bring the world to it's knees, this is the type of thing I would do.

A virus that only spreads via direct contact and has a high mortality rate can be contained. This one, as we can clearly see, cannot.

I don't have to be right here. I'm good either way. But in MY opinion, it is a distinct possibility. The undying trust in government is really a head-scratcher for me, particularly given everything we have seen over the last two or three decades. I don't know. Maybe they are just corrupt on other things but absolutely open and honest about this. Or maybe it's just the "other party" that's corrupt, depending on your point of view. But as for me, I'm skeptical.
 
I about hit the floor

NY gov Cuomo just gave praise to trump and pence for their response to the virus specifically related to NY


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He's also strongly calling for the fed govt to use it's capacity to setup field hospitals to help cover capacity. Army corps of engineers, etc.

Interesting idea.
 
Welp my building in downtown Raleigh just sent out a Notice saying they are testing somebody for Coronavirus currently. I have been extremely cautious this past week plus. Using stairs, sanitizing and washing etc. Mainly because I have a dad with Cancer but Man this certainly makes you wonder why my employer hasn't said work from home. Seems silly now because I'm fully able to.
Still waiting on these test results. They certainly are taking long enough. Vaccines are great but the speed of results is incredibly important.
 
I about hit the floor

NY gov Cuomo just gave praise to trump and pence for their response to the virus specifically related to NY


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Wow so Newsom and Cuomo both have now... very interesting.

Supposedly the White House had a press conference for 10:30 this AM, anyone hear anything on it?
 
Even some of the Chinese think Xi's claims about the virus don't pass the smell test


You mean Winnie The Pooh

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What good does wild speculation help except to ratchet up fear in other people? Esepcially now. That's the last thing people need to be doing.
You are not going to stop wild speculation. That has been going on forever. I am a believer and believe Jesus will come back one day. Do you think that is wild speculation? If someone is an adult they should know how to react. Also they should know how to think for themselves. When all this started happening did I panic and go buy everything I could. No. We have been prepared for quiet sometime.
 
You just needed to stop right there with the first sentence.

Also, what are your qualifications to say the properties of the virus are far too perfect? I've not heard anyone say anything remotely like that. If it was it would be more virulent than this.

Again, you don't know what you're talking about here.

Whether or not you choose to accept it or not, it is Chinese Biowarfare.
 

If that's so, it's officially here. For some reason the 1st test at that plant nearby remains a mystery but FEMA has set up trailers out there so...uh, what's up over there.

Sort of feeling blessed now that I had failed to get a job in healthcare over almost two years now, because although the virus for me isn't a real concern, it's a definite concern for my mom. I don't think she's been exposed but her respiratory is shaky like that side of the family's can be, and as it is she's already sneezing/coughing her head off at times due to allergies.

I worry about what would happen if my grandma on that side gets it. Based off other incidents, I'm almost certain she'd land in the hospital within a day or two of symptoms showing.

Hopefully if I can get into that fall LPN program, it doesn't get affected bigly though (but if it does we have a lot more issues than regular stuff).
 
Aaand, this is where we end up if wild speculation is allowed to run amok.

Please provide scientifically backed evidence and don't forget to show your work.
Scientifically backed evidence is lacking for both sides of this argument. It's to early to say anything definitive about this new virus.
 
Something also to consider is if whomever gets it and needs medical care. They will have medical costs of outta pocket. Plus the possibility of loss wages or laid off. My deductible is $6k. Just for me. That is a lot of money to owe.
 
Aaand, this is where we end up if wild speculation is allowed to run amok.

Please provide scientifically backed evidence and don't forget to show your work.
It was on the internet, must be true
 
Something also to consider is if whomever gets it and needs medical care. They will have medical costs of outta pocket. Plus the possibility of loss wages or laid off. My deductible is $6k. Just for me. That is a lot of money to owe.
"Lucky" for me I have hit my 7k out of pocket max for the year. I'm basically invincible.
 
Aaand, this is where we end up if wild speculation is allowed to run amok.

Please provide scientifically backed evidence and don't forget to show your work.
Not meaning to sound mean but I believe Jesus is coming back one day. Do I have to provide scientific proof?
 
Run on the meat market here in Woodruff. Tons of people filing in and coming right back out because the coolers are empty. I can’t imagine the panic again when work let’s back out and the meat isles are still empty. Bacon, sausage and just a smidge of 80/20 lean beef here. I bought 10lbs of 80/20 lean. I got the inside scoop that the chicken truck is on the way. I’m waiting on it until it gets here. It’s a mad house folks.
 
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Not meaning to sound mean but I believe Jesus is coming back one day. Do I have to provide scientific proof?

No, why would you? It's apples and oranges to compare spirituality with a man-made bio weapon that the Chinese apparently unleashed on themselves. I wonder if it was the Germans that started Polio?
 
If this is intentional Chinese biowarfare, they did a terrible job aiming the weapon.
Agreed, although one could argue I doubt they care who it hits, including it's own citizens, on it's way to America (I'm not saying I believe or deny it just thinking out loud)
 
No, why would you? It's apples and oranges to compare spirituality with a man-made bio weapon that the Chinese apparently unleashed on themselves. I wonder if it was the Germans that started Polio?
When a Christian says people are going to hell if don’t believe then that can be considered a bio weapon from Christianity. It’s all good. Back on topic. We all can agree this virus sucks and we all wish it would disappear!
 
SC reports first death a patient at a nursing home. Seems to me maybe we missed the boat and should've locked down the elderly and let the rest keep working?

 
SC reports first death a patient at a nursing home. Seems to me maybe we missed the boat and should've locked down the elderly and let the rest keep working?

Still not too late. Focus most of the resources on retirement homes, older communities, older individuals, and folks with preexisting conditions. Get/keep the economy moving to ensure resources keep coming.
 
This is not to belittle anybody, but the same people that are fear-mongering and making decisions based on emotion are the same people that rebuke and puff themself up to any other form of thought on the matter. Too many people trust the information they are fed and never question it. The truth is none of us know what's going to happen and none of us know really what caused this and we all need to be humble and recognize that.
 
Agreed, although one could argue I doubt they care who it hits, including it's own citizens, on it's way to America (I'm not saying I believe or deny it just thinking out loud)
Agreed on that. They definitely have a less than stellar humanitarian record regarding their citizens.

I don't think we should rule out the virus being created completely, but even if true, it's probably a lot more likely it got out by accident than intentionally. China is taking a massive economic hit, not to mention relations with other countries who are obviously upset at them.
 
Has anyone seen a breakdown of the cases in NY vs how many are young/old? Someone told me they know someone that works at the hospital there and they said there are a lot of young patients in ICU with it.
 
If it was true, it makes sense that it effected China to depopulate the elderly first.
? Hmmm. That makes a morbid kind of sense. I'd hesitate to buy in on that completely, but it's food for thought.

Edit: I'd still lean more that collatoral damage with other nations and trading partners would discourage this, but ya never know.
 
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Agreed on that. They definitely have a less than stellar humanitarian record regarding their citizens.

I don't think we should rule out the virus being created completely, but even if true, it's probably a lot more likely it got out by accident than intentionally. China is taking a massive economic hit, not to mention relations with other countries who are obviously upset at them.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
 
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