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Nerman said:
That is a crazy read if you want to hear what it's like inside an Italian hospital. Not for the faint of heart. But it's why this needs to be taken so serious.
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Yeah, that's the concern here cause it could easily happen. There is a shortage of beds in the US for intensive care. If the system gets overwhelmed there is going to be a real problem treating those cases that need it. This will also affect people with other conditions that end up requiring that level of support as there will be no spot for them either.
 
To think its highly likely this is man made , let out by carelessnes is what really is disheartening/fustraiting.
 
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Yeah necrosis is mostly associated with nasty bacterial infections, Now viral pneumonia can allow bacteria to grow in your chest since your immune system is shot, but that can happen with influenza/coronavirus and even a few adenoviruses (type 7 especially)
 
Shaggy said:
Thought this was the flu and a nothingburger for people under the age of 60?
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For the most part it is like the flu for under 60. As per the article a day or so ago, Italy has not had anyone below 50 die and only a 0.01 death rate for 50-59. I do think SK has had a few deaths below 60 though.

Nerman said:
www.independent.co.uk

‘Get ready’: Italian doctors warn Europe of coronavirus impact on hospitals

‘It will be tough’, British doctor admits after Italian experts warn one in 10 of those infected need intensive care
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

Italian doctors have warned medics across Europe to “get ready” for coronavirus in a letter revealing up to 10 per cent of all those infected with coronavirus need intensive care, with hospitals becoming overwhelmed.

It's interesting Italy's hospitals didn't get overwhelmed with the flu? But this is POTUS last tweet:

"So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that! "
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Considering all the other nations, Italy is by far an outlier at this point. SK’s Critical % is 0.0048 and Germany’s is 0.0017. France has just serious condition listed which is currently at 0.017.
 
Shaggy said:
Thought this was the flu and a nothingburger for people under the age of 60?
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Just something to think about. What if business and all start shutting down for 2 weeks or longer. How many don’t have the money to cover not working for 2 Weeks or more? Will people get desperate and start robbing? Will a collapse of society happen? What about the ones that will incur medical bills they can’t pay?
 
Shaggy said:
Thought this was the flu and a nothingburger for people under the age of 60?
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I wouldn’t call the flu a nothingburger, it can hit people pretty hard no matter the age. I know a few people who had the flu recently, in their 20s and healthy and it hit them hard. They were out of work for over a week with a full recovery taking almost 2 weeks.
 
Matthew70 said:
Just something to think about. What if business and all start shutting down for 2 weeks or longer. How many don’t have the money to cover not working for 2 Weeks or more? Will people get desperate and start robbing? Will a collapse of society happen? What about the ones that will incur medical bills they can’t pay?
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Well some of us have said for over a month that we shouldnt focus on this as just an illness and that we needed to view this as a threat to society. Me and @Rain Cold have harped on this very scenario for weeks.
 
With only 110k ventilators. What happens if possible estimates by early May of 200k needing ventilators comes to fruition. Who lives who dies.
 
The US has 50 million or so people 65 or older, I would imagine many of them have some degree of inherent underlying medical issues most 65 and older folks do...

My wife works at a doctors office ( which currently makes me kinda nervous ) she said they have had a few patients this week come in presenting flu like symptoms and testing negative for the flu. They do not have test to test for Corona so they have to refer them to the health dept but they dont have test either, the entire state of NC does not even have enough test on hand to test 500 people....
 
Matthew70 said:
With only 110k ventilators. What happens if possible estimates by early May of 200k needing ventilators comes to fruition. Who lives who dies.
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I am sure they triage, if they have 1 ventilator and 2 patients one who is 88 and one who is 62 then you put the 62 yr old on it and do the best you can for the 88 yr old.
 
Downeastnc said:
The US has 50 million or so people 65 or older, I would imagine many of them have some degree of inherent underlying medical issues most 65 and older folks do...

My wife works at a doctors office ( which currently makes me kinda nervous ) she said they have had a few patients this week come in presenting flu like asymptoms and testing negative for the flu. They do not have test to test for Corona so they have to refer them to the health dept but they dont have test either, the entire state of NC does not even have enough test on hand to test 500 people....
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Worries myself and family, siblings all in the higher risk category.
 
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