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4/11/20 - 4/13/20 Severe Weather Outbreak

I believe the wrf-arw model tends to overdo on supercells, but if this verifies. Oh dear.View attachment 38941

And it's brother the NMMB can't find the severe risk even if it were standing on a hornets nest. There you have it folks, apocalyptic death or Peeing into the wind.

I am curious about the 3km NAM, it used to go on dates with the ARW and now it has dumped him and goes with the NMMB recently.
 
And it's brother the NMMB can't find the severe risk even if it were standing on a hornets nest. There you have it folks, apocalyptic death or Peeing into the wind.

I am curious about the 3km NAM, it used to go on dates with the ARW and now it has dumped him and goes with the NMMB recently.

3k NAM is pretty crazy with the STP parameters (not sure how it feels about the helicity though). I would go with it's the 3k NAM doing it's usual overhype of severe but at least before nighttime, the 12k looks to support it. I think the 3k goes farther than the 12k at night.
 
3k NAM is pretty crazy with the STP parameters (not sure how it feels about the helicity though). I would go with it's the 3k NAM doing it's usual overhype of severe but at least before nighttime, the 12k looks to support it. I think the 3k goes farther than the 12k at night.

The 3km NAM shows high parameters, but never does anything with them. Really quite tame. But like I said its been like this so far this year. Still a garbage model though.

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Look at what I found on our hot off the press GFS...

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(South Central MS, you can probably find the spot where I clicked)
 
LLvL jet is gonna be so strong it’s gonna pump in cape, even without daytime heating there’s gonna be 750-1500jkg of SBcape, in the upstate aswell, mountains may break it up a bit but shear will keep it going

The western Atlantic, and especially the Gulf, is incredibly warm right now. This is probably helping enhance the instability of the air getting advected northward in the lower levels. Not great for those hoping the overnight timing will put a damper on things (ofc this would be way worse for the Carolinas with daytime heating).

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**For GA** I have noticed models have been trending stronger with the warm front convection/severe indices then almost like we mix out (something like that) into the overnight and into Monday morning before ramping up again before the squall line moves in.
 
The western Atlantic, and especially the Gulf, is incredibly warm right now. This is probably helping enhance the instability of the air getting advected northward in the lower levels. Not great for those hoping the overnight timing will put a damper on things (ofc this would be way worse for the Carolinas with daytime heating).

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Yeah, you can see with that plume of cape it comes from the GOM/Atlantic, and low levels are extremely moist, Above normal GOM/Atlantic temps near the east coast are definitely helping this moderate CAPE plume associated with the LLvL jet 21A98F9B-02C4-447C-AEE5-775FCCF077E8.png
 
One thing's clear is that we're probably looking at multiple rounds of convection with this system.

Round 1: Early Sunday Morning (mostly elevated / non-severe). This round in particular will have to be watched for the flash flooding risk.

Round 2: Mid/Late Sunday Afternoon along the warm front. The extent of capping will dictate how widespread the coverage is, but conditions will still be favorable for some severe weather with the cells being more discrete.

Round 3: Sunday Evening / Monday Morning along the cold front. This will obviously be the main round , which will definitely be more widespread because of the better forcing. However, it should be more of a damaging wind threat with eastern extent as it quickly become linear
 
Does the new Day 2 come out at 130 or 2? I’ll probably fall asleep before either lol. I also don’t expect it to change much from the day 3 tbh
 
Important to note from SPC as to why they didn't upgrade to high


"While the conditional risk of all severe hazards will be quite high
if supercells develop, uncertainty remains regarding how convection
will evolve from the morning into the afternoon. Any remnant outflow
related to early convection will determine the northern extent of
the higher-end tornado potential, and some guidance suggests the
potential for elevated convection within a midlevel moist plume
across the warm sector during the afternoon, which could either
dampen the severe potential, or evolve into surface-based convection
with a substantial severe threat. Given these factors, there is too
much uncertainty to upgrade the ongoing outlook at this time. "
 
Better or worse?


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Really strong capping EML which would significantly hamper the potential for supercells out ahead of the main line. However, this would also lead to an untapped environment as the main forcing moves in thus more instability with which to work. Also another thing to consider are the shear vectors and the trend towards less of a QLCS and more a broken line of supercells in the evening which would ultimately be just as disturbing as cells in the free warm sector.
 
Even with the crappy diurnal timing and the fact that there's nothing more than a slight risk of severe in the Carolinas, I'm starting to become deeply concerned about the tor threat here Sunday Night into Monday. If the 3km NAM or ECMWF are even remotely close to being right, we're in big trouble. Keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of tornado deaths occur at night.
 
The one major critical piece for tornadoes that's been limiting in the modeling thus far in NC is CAPE, every run of the ECMWF keeps jacking it up & is trending towards the 3km NAM


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Here's Apr 16 2011 as a reference:

We're basically in the same ballpark now in this regard...

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I don't like this at all.
 
Mhx starting to pick a main timeframe. Mid morning to early afternoon and any delay brings it in during peak heating. We are walking a fine line and if we get this to come in after lunch time it will just have more instability to tap. For those of us east of the piedmont thats an important factor heading forward.

The strongest WAA does not get going until late Sunday night
into Monday morning when the gradient tightens locally and a
notably strong 50-60 kt LLJ moves over the area, bringing very
strong low level theta-e advection. Despite the unfavorable
diurnal timing, instability will quickly climb to 1000-1500+
J/kg early Monday with 0-6km bulk shear around 60-70 kt and
expect a line of strong QLCS thunderstorms to push across the
area through the morning into the early afternoon which will
have the capability of producing damaging wind gusts and
isolated tornadoes. Still some uncertainty with the timing as
models have been trending slower over the past couple cycles
and any additional delay will bring storms across the area
as we approach peak heating. In addition to the severe threat,
strong gradient winds may necessitate a wind advisory across
some coastal counties, a high surf advisory along the coast and
coastal flooding across portions of the sounds (see Tides/Coastal
Flooding section below for more details). Heavy rainfall will
also be possible at times, though individual storms should be
progressive enough to preclude a widespread flash flooding
threat. Conditions quickly improve Monday afternoon after the
line of storms moves offshore.
 
The weather channel has rain all day for my area with 67 degrees .... hmm Periods of rain. Rain may be heavy late. High 69F. Winds SE at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Locally heavy rainfall possible. North Alabama
 
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Lol what ? No they are not , Huntsville isn’t . They question how far north the instability will get in that area but that’s always been a question


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Oh ok sry just seemed like they were not as impressed this am....still lots of variables
 
Oh ok sry just seemed like they were not as impressed this am....still lots of variables

Very true . Hopefully things work in our favor with less instability and more junk convection. Even if that happens damaging wind will still be a big concern as this will be a very dynamic system


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Rick, deep breaths my man. lol
Lol yeah I like tracking the weather fir the science part but it's a huge headache being a day out and not knowing too much still I am cooking today but need to get out of my place if it gets really bad here
 
Updraft helicity swaths. For sunday into early monday. Lots of deiscrete updrafts. I think the prime question is how will junk convection or rain showers effect the warm sector. All the other parameters are ripe but the question remains with the rain possibly being in the warm sector which probably wont be resolved until shortly before things start rockin and rolling. 3km nam wants to show it not effecting things along with some other CAM's. ?‍♂️?‍♂️?Screenshot_20200411-071407_Samsung Internet.jpg
 
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