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Tropical 2025 Tropical Thread

0Z UK is similar to the 12Z with a TS N of the Leewards moving WNW:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 132 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+132 : 15.6N 56.6W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 21.08.2025 132 15.6N 56.6W 1009 26
0000UTC 22.08.2025 144 16.3N 58.8W 1007 32
1200UTC 22.08.2025 156 18.1N 60.9W 1006 37
0000UTC 23.08.2025 168 19.4N 63.3W 1005 38

12Z UK has TS 3rd run in row but this recurves ~62W due to Erin to its N:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 102 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+102 : 15.6N 48.6W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 21.08.2025 108 16.8N 50.3W 1009 26
1200UTC 21.08.2025 120 18.5N 54.0W 1008 31
0000UTC 22.08.2025 132 20.3N 56.7W 1006 31
1200UTC 22.08.2025 144 21.9N 59.3W 1005 36
0000UTC 23.08.2025 156 24.5N 61.2W 1006 35
1200UTC 23.08.2025 168 25.3N 61.8W 1006 38

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Followup to the above 12Z UKMET post regarding the new MDR AOI:

I just looked at the last 4 UKMET runs and discovered that the reason the latest run recurves this AOI into Erin is because Erin is further SW due to a further W recurve and thus doesn’t exit until a couple of days later than yesterday’s runs:

UKMET progs for 0Z 8/22:

1) 0Z 8/15 run at 168 hrs:
Erin 954 mb at 38N, 59W after recurve at 70W
AOI 1011 mb at 20N, 61W, is 1,250 miles to the S

2) 12Z 8/15 run at 156 hrs:
Erin 949 mb at 42N, 57W after recurve at 70W
AOI 1006 mb at 18N, 62W, is 1,700 miles to the SSW

3) 0Z 8/16 run at 144 hrs:
Erin 962 mb at 37N, 66W after recurve at 73W
AOI 1007 mb at 16N, 59W, is 1,500 miles to the SSE

4) 12Z 8/16 run at 132 hrs:
Erin 958 mb at 35N, 71W after recurve at 74W
AOI 1006 mb at 20N, 57W, is 1,350 miles to the SE moving NW to the S of retreating H5 ridge

Conclusion:
It isn’t just about how fast the AOI moves W and develops, but also and possibly more crucially it is about how far W Erin recurves. The further W Erin recurves, the longer it will take for her to exit. The later the exit, the better chance the AOI would have to recurve before reaching the Conus.
 
GFS haha all the other runs were a head fake. It makes a late attempt but much weaker than 18Z

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0Z UKMET vs 12Z:

-AOI forms 30 hours later and then is barely N of the N Leewards (~300 miles to the SW of prior run at same time).

-Although Erin still recurves at 74W at same time as prior run had it, it after 120 hours exits much faster to the ENE. At hour 156, it’s already to 54W vs only to 65W on the prior run. So, then Erin on the 0Z is ~1,600 miles NE of the AOI vs ~1,000 miles NNW of the AOI on the 12Z at 168.

-Regardless, the AOI is moving NNW at 168 suggesting it’s likely recurving well E of the SE US:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 132 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+132 : 18.6N 61.9W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 22.08.2025 132 18.6N 61.9W 1008 30
0000UTC 23.08.2025 144 19.3N 63.8W 1007 29
1200UTC 23.08.2025 156 20.1N 65.9W 1006 36
0000UTC 24.08.2025 168 22.3N 67.1W 1005 42
 
I will say upfront that some of the EPS members either follow Erin out or struggle to develop behind it(shear from it?) but there's definitely more support for a threat than I thought
 
I will say upfront that some of the EPS members either follow Erin out or struggle to develop behind it(shear from it?) but there's definitely more support for a threat than I thought

Yeah, the 0z Euro actually does develop the system, but it's OTS because it follows the weakness Erin leaves behind, I believe.
 
Yeah, if you're to believe the EPS from last night, this is going to be tricky. Anything from OTS to get into the gulf and be a problem is on the table.

It's too early for me to be able to count how many develop the system though.
 
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