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Misc 2019 Banter & Friendly Conservation

SoutheastRidge said:
At a busy place like Walmart the lines would be a mile long if police were checking people in.
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Seems like when something happens than we get a copy cat before things slack down. I dont think Walmart would spend the money on force protection, but could on some high level stores. I'm a manager for my Walmart and it's a nice and peaceful store to work at, so I hope this continues
 
Jon said:
100% agree, It’s mental illness. It’s certainly NOT video games. I played first person shooters since the age of 13-14 through now. That’s 2 decades of shooting in video games, learning tactical positions and weapons, etc and I’ll never, ever even think about shooting a real person. I don’t even want to own a pistol. I shoot at my in-laws for target practice, but no AR-15’s just 22’s and pistols....their pistols.

The video game argument just doesn’t make sense because I’m a living example that it has not desensitized me. I know the difference between reality and video games. I’d be trembling if I had to shoot someone, even in self defense.

It takes a mental illness, a warped and damaged mind filled with hate to be able to shoot innocent people. I’m not pro guns or anti guns, but we need to do something to slow this down. If he had a knife or had to reload pistols the death toll would have been less, that’s a guarantee and it can’t be argued. We need to wake up.




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That is true, however you have to admit that if you have a underlying mental illness, the violent video games and movies could be the catalyst. Just because you didn't become desensitized and I didn't become desensitized, doesn't mean it isn't happening at an increasing rate.

That said, Social media I believe is by far the biggest issue because of just the scope of what you can read and what you can do.
 
Arcc said:
That is true, however you have to admit that if you have a underlying mental illness, the violent video games and movies could be the catalyst. Just because you didn't become desensitized and I didn't become desensitized, doesn't mean it isn't happening at an increasing rate.

That said, Social media I believe is by far the biggest issue because of just the scope of what you can read and what you can do.
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I love the internet in general. But as usual bad comes with the good. Without social media, which has some really bad aspects, this website wouldn't exist, for example. Would it be worth it to not have this (and other BBs) to avoid the horrible stuff that is promoted by social media?
 
GaWx said:


Admittedly, this Keith Edwards stat of mass shootings by country is misleading to SOME extent due to the relatively high population of the US vs the average of the other countries in the list. In other words, if the list were instead of the ratio of # of mass shootings to population, it wouldn’t look nearly as bad. However, for the most part it still looks pretty bad for the US. Here’s a population adjusted example, Germany:

“Just to compare USA:GER:
US: 327 Mio people = 249 mass-shootings in 2019 so far
GER: 82 Mio people (25% of USA) = No mass-shootings

If we had the same ratio than in the USA it would be
82 Mio people = 62 mass-shootings.
But we have zero mass-shootings so far in 2019”
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The biggest issue with comparing nations is the minority populations. America is by far much more diverse than the other nation and always has been which leads to far greater challenges. It also is much more diverse in areas and local traditions.

It's like the whole healthcare debate. Europe is touted for nationwide healthcare and we are bashed, but we will see how they fair as their nations become more unhealthy like we are. Likewise we will see how Europe fairs as more viewpoints are added with their increasing minority populations.

Just for example, how many of those mass shootings are inner city drive by's such as occur in Chicago and Birmingham or a result of the drug trade or drug deals? Our failure is not loving our brother and allowing places to rot.
 
GaWx said:
I love the internet in general. But as usual bad comes with the good. Without social media, which has some really bad aspects, this website wouldn't exist, for example. Would it be worth it to not have this (and other BBs) to avoid the horrible stuff that is promoted by social media?
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I think the genie is out of the bottle so to speak. It is a runaway train with little to stop it. We have gotten away from the local economy where you know your neighbors to a online metropolis where you can say your mind with no recourse while hiding in your basement. God can fix anything, but sometimes we cross a line and are left to our own devices.
 
GaWx said:


Admittedly, this Keith Edwards stat of mass shootings by country is misleading to SOME extent due to the relatively high population of the US vs the average of the other countries in the list. In other words, if the list were instead of the ratio of # of mass shootings to population, it wouldn’t look nearly as bad. However, for the most part it still looks pretty bad for the US. Here’s a population adjusted example, Germany:

“Just to compare USA:GER:
US: 327 Mio people = 249 mass-shootings in 2019 so far
GER: 82 Mio people (25% of USA) = No mass-shootings

If we had the same ratio than in the USA it would be
82 Mio people = 62 mass-shootings.
But we have zero mass-shootings so far in 2019”
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the large point holds until Germany can match 25% of USA’s mass shootings, which I’m willing to bet my savings, won’t happen. But I understand why it’s slightly misleading but I don’t really see the point.

Our rate of shootings adjusted for ever factor you can try to account for is still higher than anywhere on the planet, that I can assure you.


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Jon said:
the large point holds until Germany can match 25% of USA’s mass shootings, which I’m willing to bet my savings, won’t happen. But I understand why it’s slightly misleading but I don’t really see the point.

Our rate of shootings adjusted for ever factor you can try to account for is still higher than anywhere on the planet, that I can assure you.


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It’s the price we pay for the freedom to own guns.


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If folks wanna get rid of guns, there is one ... only one ... legitimate way.
Amend the Constitution.
Founders allowed for that. There's a process and procedure. Actually two if one reads the Constitution ...
Back to getting ready for Court ...
 
SoutheastRidge said:
At a busy place like Walmart the lines would be a mile long if police were checking people in.
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Compare to Lowe’s. Lowe’s call center in Wilkesboro. Can’t even enter the gate without an parking tag ID in the window. Most of their facilities have walk in scans, bag checks and wands. They can clear hundreds of people within a few minutes. Now Walmart, even bigger with more money, yet hardly nothing but cameras.
 
Guns, money and jobs. That’s my answer. We pay for troops, boarder patrol, I would support a tax to pay for security a little closer to home too.
 
Jon said:
the large point holds until Germany can match 25% of USA’s mass shootings, which I’m willing to bet my savings, won’t happen. But I understand why it’s slightly misleading but I don’t really see the point.

Our rate of shootings adjusted for ever factor you can try to account for is still higher than anywhere on the planet, that I can assure you.


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I would like to know how mental health issues compare from one country to the next, if it's possible to even compare apples to apples. We are never ever going to ban all guns in this country. It will be interesting to see what happens when we finally ban "assault weapons". My guess is that it won't make much difference. Honestly, if we can't address the mental issues, then I don't know if we're going to be able to make much meaningful progress.
 
I’m a huge supporter of the second amendment, while I don’t personally own a gun I do believe every American has the right to own a gun. However, I will use the basic argument that the constitution was written several hundreds of years ago when the weapons available to the public today did not exist. The founding fathers intended for the consitition to be periodically ‘repaired’ or updated to modern withstanding. While I am in no way saying we should ban guns, I am saying we can alter the second amendment to fit a 21st century society while not infringing on any basic rights.
 
Rain Cold said:
I would like to know how mental health issues compare from one country to the next, if it's possible to even compare apples to apples. We are never ever going to ban all guns in this country. It will be interesting to see what happens when we finally ban "assault weapons". My guess is that it won't make much difference. Honestly, if we can't address the mental issues, then I don't know if we're going to be able to make much meaningful progress.
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Teach your children well
Cadi40 said:
I’m a huge supporter of the second amendment, while I don’t personally own a gun I do believe every American has the right to own a gun. However, I will use the basic argument that the constitution was written several hundreds of years ago when the weapons available to the public today did not exist. The founding fathers intended for the consitition to be periodically ‘repaired’ or updated to modern withstanding. While I am in no way saying we should ban guns, I am saying we can alter the second amendment to fit a 21st century society while not infringing on any basic rights.
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The Founding Fathers also had sense enough, if not wisdom, to provide two mechanisms to do that ... both are found in Article V and both require a process, a procedure, and a stated majority of States, not individuals or some group of a vocal populous. Brilliant.
 
pcbjr said:
Teach your children well

The Founding Fathers also had sense enough, if not wisdom, to provide two mechanisms to do that ... both are found in Article V and both require a process, a procedure, and a stated majority of States, not individuals or some group of a vocal populous. Brilliant.
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Agreed and you know this, they also had the wisdom to create the 2nd amendment in an effort to prevent history from repeating itself, ie a people unable to defend itself against a tyrannical govt. History, especially the history of how our country was founded, often gets lost in this debate as well as an understanding of our constitution

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metwannabe said:
Agreed and you know this, they also had the wisdom to create the 2nd amendment in an effort to prevent history from repeating itself, ie a people unable to defend itself against a tyrannical govt. History, especially the history of how our country was founded, often gets lost in this debate as well as an understanding of our constitution

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If Shawn would only add a 5 Like option ... ;):cool:
 
EastAtlwx said:
dang. wow. i didnt even know about him but i just gave his "In my section" a listen and i mess with it! Do you have any suggestions by him? My favorite artists right now are 21 savage, Dababy, y YBN Cordae.
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He has a few good ones, (first 48) (it ain’t easy) (paradise) (imperfect flower)
 
NoSnowATL said:
Haha you know weather is boring when religion thread and political thread is leading the way. We need a severe threat or tropical storm ASAP.


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No thanks: Quiet please.

Edit: Thank the big guy he almost surely doesn’t grant wishes like this for obvious reasons. Your boredom is not a good enough reason to possibly put folks in danger.
 
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I would like to give everyone in the last couple of pages a round of applause ?, seriously, y’all did a great job of discussing a hot button issue without anyone getting antagonistic.
Now, if we could only be this civil during the 18z model runs this winter ?
 
ontherocks said:
I would like to give everyone in the last couple of pages a round of applause ?, seriously, y’all did a great job of discussing a hot button issue without anyone getting antagonistic.
Now, if we could only be this civil during the 18z model runs this winter ?
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Yeah, this place is good, most of the time when things get heated it’s more random things (1300M)
 
NoSnowATL said:
Haha you know weather is boring when religion thread and political thread is leading the way. We need a severe threat or tropical storm ASAP.


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Lol, I was thinking the same thing
 
accu35 said:
Seems like when something happens than we get a copy cat before things slack down. I dont think Walmart would spend the money on force protection, but could on some high level stores. I'm a manager for my Walmart and it's a nice and peaceful store to work at, so I hope this continues
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I work at Walmart too, its a really quiet one as well(the biggest events in the almost 5 years I've worked there have all been weather related lol), the police station is also next door and cops frequently hang out in the parking lot and we've been doing training for an active shooter for what seems like ever every few months(seems like each time it updated it added another headline from a shooting somewhere), but this week's events has really made me wonder

also our "training" is a computer thing that tells us to avoid deny defend basically, not really sure that helps in a real world scenario

I know some Walmarts are more dangerous than others(even around this area) so maybe like you said that's a starting point. What's interesting about that is though that the past few years El Paso has been ranked the safest city in America despite being next to the border...

but more broadly I don't really know what the answer is, but something has to change
 
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accu35 said:
Meanwhile, I'm so ready for some weather action. Fall is around the corner and I'm so ready
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Yeah, so excited for upper 80s highs and mid 60s lows through mid October and 3 months of little rain! September and October, are some of our driest months climatology wise
 
Can anyone suggest a weather app that uses actual NWS forecasts and has alerts, too? I have used Weatherbug and the Weather Channel app, but don't think their forecasts are from the NWS.
 
Brick Tamland said:
Can anyone suggest a weather app that uses actual NWS forecasts and has alerts, too? I have used Weatherbug and the Weather Channel app, but don't think their forecasts are from the NWS.
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They are fine apps for alerts but poor for forecast because most of The Times they automatically update according to the most recent model run and I think mostly off of the GFS if I'm not mistaken.

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Tarheel1 said:
Yeah, so excited for upper 80s highs and mid 60s lows through mid October and 3 months of little rain! September and October, are some of our driest months climatology wise
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Yes, we will see some of those temps no doubt in October, but still cooler than what we have now. As long as late fall into winter delivers, I'm good what we get in October
 
gawxnative said:
Well Glen Burns (WSB TV) is "semi retired" as in handing off the day to day broadcasts to Brad Nitz , after 30 years of on the air.He is still Chief Met, and will do science reporting and the "fill in" when Brad is off
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Brad is awesome! Best Met in Georgia!


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I still hate the wording for the marginal and slight risk categories. If you look up the definition for marginal, one of the words it uses is slight.
 
Looks like a good day to be out by the pool! ?
 
Brick Tamland said:
Can anyone suggest a weather app that uses actual NWS forecasts and has alerts, too? I have used Weatherbug and the Weather Channel app, but don't think their forecasts are from the NWS.
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I know with the Weather Underground App, you can choose NWS forecast data, or their in-house.
 
crecre9 said:
I know with the Weather Underground App, you can choose NWS forecast data, or their in-house.
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Thanks. I'll check that one out. I want one that can give you alerts based on your specific location and saved locations, too.
 
Sounds like Glenn will still be doing the evening broadcast, but will be stepping away after his contract ends in three years. Brad Nitz will then take over as Chief Met for WSB. Glenn is a legend in the ATL market, even though he catches a lot of flack on here (deserved sometimes). Brad is fantastic though, and has been in the position to take over for a long time now. There is a reason David Chandley left WSB to be the Chief Met at Fox 5, he wasn't going to be CM at WSB.
 
Three years from now would be Glenn’s 40th anniversary there, he started back in 1982. I only know and remember that because my sister was born the same year. That’s a good time to hang up the towel. I agree Brad deserves the CM promotion, still feel kinda bad that David got brushed over given his seniority and clearly how much he wanted that position, but at least it worked out for him in the end. The timing couldn’t have been better, Ken Cook retired the same month David Chandley quit. ?
 
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