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Misc 2019 Banter & Friendly Conservation

Cad Wedge NC said:
Well, this this is the banter and friendly thread. We should be able to discuss most anything as long as we are civil to one another. However, the topic of religion and faith has a tendency to divide folks, and we don't want that. Having said that, we have a Political thread, a global warming thread, a banter thread, and various weather threads. Maybe we need an "All things religious" thread. At least that will give members a chance to let everyone know where they stand and what they believe in ...... (as long as it is in a civil manner). What do you guys think?
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Sounds good to me, but as a theologically educated pastor I may have to keep my distance ?
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
Well, this this is the banter and friendly thread. We should be able to discuss most anything as long as we are civil to one another. However, the topic of religion and faith has a tendency to divide folks, and we don't want that. Having said that, we have a Political thread, a global warming thread, a banter thread, and various weather threads. Maybe we need an "All things religious" thread. At least that will give members a chance to let everyone know where they stand and what they believe in ...... (as long as it is in a civil manner). What do you guys think?
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That's up to you, as long as we treat others with respect.
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
I will wait for the Mods to give me the green-light before starting the thread.
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It's fine by me. Let's just try to be respectful and kind to each other. So go for it, and if another mod or admin has any objections, they can take the appropriate actions.
 
Rain Cold said:
It's fine by me. Let's just try to be respectful and kind to each other. So go for it, and if another mod or admin has any objections, they can take the appropriate actions.
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I'm good with it but all members need to be mindful of 3 things. #1 others WILL have differing opinions than you #2 mods aren't on 24/7 and this thread probably isn't going to be monitored as much as the weather threads #3 posts will be removed at the staff's discretion, if the thread becomes an issue it will be removed as well

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SD said:
I'm good with it but all members need to be mindful of 3 things. #1 others WILL have differing opinions than you #2 mods aren't on 24/7 and this thread probably isn't going to be monitored as much as the weather threads #3 posts will be removed at the staff's discretion, if the thread becomes an issue it will be removed as well

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Dante's Inferno?
 
Ok, I couldnt see the June thread except on the main forum list, could see the July thread and now the August thread is like it was for the June one. What is going on?
 
SD said:
I'm good with it but all members need to be mindful of 3 things. #1 others WILL have differing opinions than you #2 mods aren't on 24/7 and this thread probably isn't going to be monitored as much as the weather threads #3 posts will be removed at the staff's discretion, if the thread becomes an issue it will be removed as well

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Agree. Hopefully, we can keep it cordial and adult behavior can prevail. So far, the political thread has been mostly well-behaved, which is surprising, given the current political climate.
 
pcbjr said:
Apparently the dude was an avid video game player ... not getting into politics about guns, but there is something very weird about some aspects of life in the past 15 years versus ...
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You are right sir. Theses video games are desensitizing ( hope I spelled that right) the youth today. Killing and shooting people doesn’t mean the same. Technology is a gift and a curse in so many ways. Death is permanent. You can’t just replay or restart.


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I don't get the video game argument. From what I've seen, it has nothing to do with the games themselves. It's mental health most of the time and upbringing. The parents of the shooters likely didn't raise their kid properly or ignored the signs they needed help. Yes, online interaction has messed up how we socialize, and likely contributes to the growing trend. If you go by the "He did this in his life" route, what's not to say he couldn't have done it because of extreme political, religious, or some other ideology he had or activity he participated in?
 
ForsythSnow said:
I don't get the video game argument. From what I've seen, it has nothing to do with the games themselves. It's mental health most of the time and upbringing. The parents of the shooters likely didn't raise their kid properly or ignored the signs they needed help. Yes, online interaction has messed up how we socialize, and likely contributes to the growing trend.
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FS, I invite you into my world. Many folks just simply don't care ... and it's just not about not caring ... they know nothing else but self, much less others ... blame it on parents (I do), blame it on schools (I do), blame it on never having to lift a finger (I do), blame it on many things (I do), but basically we have a society that likes to pass the blame and not take responsibility (real responsibility anyways) ... unless responsibility equates with pointing a finger (rather than honestly looking in a mirror) ... and I fear that's what many do (and fail to do) nowadays ...
Off the soap box and back to reading for court on Monday ...

PS - BTW, I pretend to have no answer, just daily observations over an evolving lifetime ...
 
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Whatever reason and we might not ever find out it still sucks. He was 21 I believe. It’s 2019, crazy people can get weapons very easily. Unfortunately there isn’t enough good people carrying them to protect us from them. No law or ban will help, all you can do is protect yourself and family as much as possible. I recommend everyone to get a license to carry and go practice at a range, learn to shoot a handgun from different ranges and positions. It might save a life one day.


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It is the convergence of several factors: a growing mental health crisis, a culture that increasingly celebrates violence (movies, video games, social media platforms -- all of which act as desensitization mechanisms), the breakdown of the family, the growing disdain for and outright rebellion against higher moral authority, an increasingly unstable political and social climate, and easy access to deadly weapons.
 
As far as video games go, it's not the game in and of itself, just like it's not the gun in and of itself. The thing is, if you are constantly exposed to graphic violence, much of which you can actively commit in a "fake" world, it makes the real thing seem doable, especially if you already have an inclination for such an act (mental health issue, parental abuse or neglect, bullying, other preconditioning factors).

It is a sad situation we find ourselves in, with no simple solution. I am afraid things will only continue to get worse.
 
Are there more mass shootings today than 20-30 years ago or does the media just cover it more these days? Seems to me there are more shootings today and i definitely think social media, technology, video games, etc plays a part in it. I think its easier these days for kids to be anti-social and im afraid its only going to get worse. I really miss the old days when people actually had to communicate with each other.
 
SoutheastRidge said:
Are there more mass shootings today than 20-30 years ago or does the media just cover it more these days? Seems to me there are more shootings today and i definitely think social media, technology, video games, etc plays a part in it. I think its easier these days for kids to be anti-social and im afraid its only going to get worse. I really miss the old days when people actually had to communicate with each other.
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No doubt the internet and social media breeds a lot of it

I mean hell you can pledge allegiance to ISIS on there... People have used it to make bombs too... The list is endless

Whats freaky is this guy was from 15 minutes from here and drove 9 hours to this store
 
Brent said:
No doubt the internet and social media breeds a lot of it

I mean hell you can pledge allegiance to ISIS on there... People have used it to make bombs too... The list is endless

Whats freaky is this guy was from 15 minutes from here and drove 9 hours to this store
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Was he after somebody?


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Brent said:
No doubt the internet and social media breeds a lot of it

I mean hell you can pledge allegiance to ISIS on there... People have used it to make bombs too... The list is endless

Whats freaky is this guy was from 15 minutes from here and drove 9 hours to this store
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I wonder why he singled out that particular store 9 hours away. Why drive that far? There are Walmarts everywhere.
 
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Was he after somebody?


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Allegedly he hated immigration and i guess because its so close to the border(the closest Walmart to Mexico around here) probably thought he could kill a lot of Mexicans basically

But i mean we have Mexicans here...
 
Rain Cold said:
It is the convergence of several factors: a growing mental health crisis, a culture that increasingly celebrates violence (movies, video games, social media platforms -- all of which act as desensitization mechanisms), the breakdown of the family, the growing disdain for and outright rebellion against higher moral authority, an increasingly unstable political and social climate, and easy access to deadly weapons.
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Can't agree enough. As a former avid gamer a decade or so ago, I look back shocked at what I was allowed to play and watch growing up in a conservative Christian home! I cant imagine what others played or watched then and much more so now.

My kids will not have that chance.
 
ForsythSnow said:
I don't get the video game argument. From what I've seen, it has nothing to do with the games themselves. It's mental health most of the time and upbringing. The parents of the shooters likely didn't raise their kid properly or ignored the signs they needed help. Yes, online interaction has messed up how we socialize, and likely contributes to the growing trend. If you go by the "He did this in his life" route, what's not to say he couldn't have done it because of extreme political, religious, or some other ideology he had or activity he participated in?
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100% agree, It’s mental illness. It’s certainly NOT video games. I played first person shooters since the age of 13-14 through now. That’s 2 decades of shooting in video games, learning tactical positions and weapons, etc and I’ll never, ever even think about shooting a real person. I don’t even want to own a pistol. I shoot at my in-laws for target practice, but no AR-15’s just 22’s and pistols....their pistols.

The video game argument just doesn’t make sense because I’m a living example that it has not desensitized me. I know the difference between reality and video games. I’d be trembling if I had to shoot someone, even in self defense.

It takes a mental illness, a warped and damaged mind filled with hate to be able to shoot innocent people. I’m not pro guns or anti guns, but we need to do something to slow this down. If he had a knife or had to reload pistols the death toll would have been less, that’s a guarantee and it can’t be argued. We need to wake up.




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Why is it that theres been so much focus on keeping schools safe when most shootings happen in public places like Walmart or other businesses?
 
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Admittedly, this Keith Edwards stat of mass shootings by country is misleading to SOME extent due to the relatively high population of the US vs the average of the other countries in the list. In other words, if the list were instead of the ratio of # of mass shootings to population, it wouldn’t look nearly as bad. However, for the most part it still looks pretty bad for the US. Here’s a population adjusted example, Germany:

“Just to compare USA:GER:
US: 327 Mio people = 249 mass-shootings in 2019 so far
GER: 82 Mio people (25% of USA) = No mass-shootings

If we had the same ratio than in the USA it would be
82 Mio people = 62 mass-shootings.
But we have zero mass-shootings so far in 2019”
 
I would like to actually do a fantasy football league this year. Do we have at least 9 more people interested? I'd like to do the live draft on the night of Thursday the 29th around 8pm eastern.

To go along with that would everyone be interested in it being a 1 year league or multi year? I would love a dynasty or keeper league

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Sorry, realized I put this in the wrong thread...
At this point I don’t care which side of the aisle you’re on, but something needs to be done. Two mass shootings in less than 24 hours? Unacceptable. The manifesto the El Paso shooter allegedly wrote is sickening, I would never expect anyone to still hold on to those views in 2019. I know we are never going to stop mass shootings, but the love of god if we could do SOMETHING to at least prevent one
 
More jobs might be the answer. Big business like Walmart can hire armed police and check people in.
 
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