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Misc 2019 Banter & Friendly Conservation

I know that at times, the way some things are worded, it sounds sarcastic. But, you have to say valid points - and those valid points can "sound" sarcastic - but they're not. It's simply proving a point.
 
Snowluvr said:
I'm sure the question I'm about to ask is pretty elementary to some of you but remember I'm trying to learn. From what I've been reading it seems a Miller A is the kind of storm that produces best for the Atlanta area? Is that correct? Could someone explain the difference between a Miller A and Miller B?
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Yes. A lot of it have to do with the blocking, low pressure and cold air.
With a Miller A the low pressure just slides along the gulf coast allowing colder air to stay in place especially on the east side of the southeast.
With a miller B the low pressure slides along the coast then cuts up the apps. That’s kills the cold air.
For Atlanta area I would be wanting a Miller A storm, that is your best solution. Hopefully I explained it for you. B15300A7-B2CD-47D0-A913-5DBA441324F6.jpeg8BD1EF6E-6923-47B6-8413-303D45868A1A.jpeg
 
I thought a Miller B was a low pressure center that slides west to east usually in the Upper South, then heads northeast after it hits the coast.

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I know happy hour delivered, and it's happy hour for a reason. Big or small storm or not, this pattern is ripe for something big and specail, 12z and 18z, both run has great potential for this time frame and I'm expecting something to come out of it.
 
A Miller A is a consolidated area of low pressure that remains consolidated as it moves east and northeast. A Miller B system is one where the initial low pressure dies and effectively transfers its energy to a newly formed low near the coast. The new coastal takes over and becomes the primary storm.

Miller A storms in winter have a narrow transition zone between rain and snow. Miller B storms feature warmer mid levels, which results in a broad transition zone (sleet and freezing rain) between the rain and snow areas.

Hope this helps!
 
DarkKnight said:
Yes. A lot of it have to do with the blocking, low pressure and cold air.
With a Miller A the low pressure just slides along the gulf coast allowing colder air to stay in place especially on the east side of the southeast.
With a miller B the low pressure slides along the coast then cuts up the apps. That’s kills the cold air.
For Atlanta area I would be wanting a Miller A storm, that is your best solution. Hopefully I explained it for you. View attachment 11161View attachment 11162
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Thank you so much. Yes you did very well.
DarkKnight said:
Yes. A lot of it have to do with the blocking, low pressure and cold air.
With a Miller A the low pressure just slides along the gulf coast allowing colder air to stay in place especially on the east side of the southeast.
With a miller B the low pressure slides along the coast then cuts up the apps. That’s kills the cold air.
For Atlanta area I would be wanting a Miller A storm, that is your best solution. Hopefully I explained it for you. View attachment 11161View attachment 11162
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Thank you. Yes you answered very well. One more question...what keeps the low from cutting too soon? High pressure further north?
 
Rain Cold said:
A Miller A is a consolidated area of low pressure that remains consolidated as it moves east and northeast. A Miller B system is one where the initial low pressure dies and effectively transfers its energy to a newly formed low near the coast. The new coastal takes over and becomes the primary storm.

Miller A storms in winter have a narrow transition zone between rain and snow. Miller B storms feature warmer mid levels, which results in a broad transition zone (sleet and freezing rain) between the rain and snow areas.

Hope this helps!
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So this last system was a Miller B ?
 
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Rain Cold said:
A Miller A is a consolidated area of low pressure that remains consolidated as it moves east and northeast. A Miller B system is one where the initial low pressure dies and effectively transfers its energy to a newly formed low near the coast. The new coastal takes over and becomes the primary storm.

Miller A storms in winter have a narrow transition zone between rain and snow. Miller B storms feature warmer mid levels, which results in a broad transition zone (sleet and freezing rain) between the rain and snow areas.

Hope this helps!
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You guys are so nice!! Thanks. It helps so much to understand things better!
 
Snowluvr said:
I'm sure the question I'm about to ask is pretty elementary to some of you but remember I'm trying to learn. From what I've been reading it seems a Miller A is the kind of storm that produces best for the Atlanta area? Is that correct? Could someone explain the difference between a Miller A and Miller B?
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These explanations are NC-focused but should get the point across.

Miller A
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Miller B
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I’m sure it’s already been answered but I would also like to answer to feel important. A Miller B essentially begins to cut then transfers over the mountains to the NC/SC coast. Around here you need a Miller A for big time snow potential. Allows 850’s to become entrenched as well as cold surface temperatures. Miller B’s can work for ice on occasion but 850’s will never favor snow
 
Joe D’Aleo “With very cold air on the playing field and big time reinforcements coming, the model has some big time northeast snows and what would be a legendary southern snow and ice storm. It wasn't on the 12Z and may disappear but not impossible given the energy coming inland when cold is becoming established.”

I’ll believe it when I see it...‍


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SnowNiner said:
Thanks! Been a while for sure. The Christmas 2010 storm I do remember now.
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Actually forgot about this one lol.
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Some may argue the other January 2018 storm was too, but to me that was virtually entirely upper level driven so I'm not counting it, despite it being essentially an all-snow or rain event.
 
Does anyone know of any examples of "Southern Sliders" in El Nino years? February 2010 is one of the only ones I can think of. As Eric Webb has noted before, most El Nino Southeastern winter storms primarily affect areas west of I-85.
 
CyclonicFury said:
Does anyone know of any examples of "Southern Sliders" in El Nino years? February 2010 is one of the only ones I can think of. As Eric Webb has noted before, most El Nino Southeastern winter storms primarily affect areas west of I-85.
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Along with the aforementioned storms the following would be generally classified as bonafide "southern sliders", I've only selected a couple events.

Strong El Nino 1991-92:
January 16-19 1992
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Strong El Nino 1982-83:
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Strong El Nino 1972-73:
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