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Wintry 1/9-12 Winter Potential Great Dane or Yorkie

I think KATL will hedge a bit to the warning side criteria simply because the chance of tomorrow's AM commute risk being a nightmare with the cold surface and sub-freezing air in any AM snowfall of significance.
I don’t know. A lot of times they’ll go with the WWA and upgrade last second to cover their rear ends. They are probably holding a prayer vigil that this thing goes away and they don’t have to make a call.
 

This Finger strip across NC has been there for days on the Euro suite, especially ens and Euro AI.
It was orientated more Murphy to Manteo, but now consensus is Murphy to Elizabeth City. You see it on Icon ,Ukmet and finally now GFS, Gefs.
If I'm in Raleigh, you want just a shade/dribble more flatter look to evolve at the last second , and flatten this trajectory back towards Murphy to Manteo angle.

There's Metorology behind the orientation of this angle, not modelology. So not sure what can tick back up stream to get that outcome achieved.
 

It doesn't really have anything but showers after the initial fronto band, which is believable since the wave is weakening. Looks a lot like the January 2011 storm for the upstate, Hammer time with the fronto band and then spottier stuff afterwards that doesn't really add a lot to total accumulations.
 
Another model that has never wavered here is the Graph. Not once has it showed any ptype besides snow. Consistent beyond belief. Still has clouds rolling in here right before sunrise tomorrow, thick clouds by 8:30ish am, complete overcast. Precip starting 2-3pm.

I never see any clown, accum maps from it. I just watch the motion clip every time Dopplerwx or anyone post. I appreciate it.

The post analysis of the storm will be fun to see and confirm these new model tools in AI worlds legitimacy.
 
It doesn't really have anything but showers after the initial fronto band, which is believable since the wave is weakening. Looks a lot like the January 2011 storm for the upstate, Hammer time with the fronto band and then spottier stuff afterwards that doesn't really add a lot to total accumulations.
Yep it’s my hope that it (along with euro and gfs) nail the fronto band. I’m paranoid we get screwed in clt and never start as snow.
 

I don't know how good the GRAF is with precipitation types, but I've noticed it does best with onset precipitation, whereaseas all other models tend to underestimate it. Good to see it moving the sleet line further north such that it's less of an outlier, even though it's more on the southern camp.
 
At this point I would depend more on WPC as they are rarely wrong immediately going into an event

Folks will depend on whatever they want to depend on. There are some super talented people in here that follow these storms like hawks. If you or anyone else wants to follow the WPC’s forecast thoughts, fine, have it. This forum has nothing to do with just closing down all your weather pages and just following WPC’s thoughts every storm
 
This Finger strip across NC has been there for days on the Euro suite, especially ens and Euro AI.
It was orientated more Murphy to Manteo, but now consensus is Murphy to Elizabeth City. You see it on Icon ,Ukmet and finally now GFS, Gefs.
If I'm in Raleigh, you want just a shade/dribble more flatter look to evolve at the last second , and flatten this trajectory back towards Murphy to Manteo angle.

There's Metorology behind the orientation of this angle, not modelology. So not sure what can tick back up stream to get that outcome achieved.

That line is Climo Correct too…. I-85 N/W. So historically speaking it looks accurate placement wise


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That's a big change, wasn't expecting that from you. Hope you are right!
the ice trending north out of Georgia&South Carolina will push the heaviest snowfall ever so slightly north…gonna be a sweet spot somewhere closer to us now. It’s a rug pull so to speak last minute, sleet/zr really gonna kill a lot of areas in the snowfall department.
 
Such a fine line here in N NC. Back to flatter/weaker system means all snow but we are losing qpf again, the MOGREPS (Ukie ens) below shows that but if we amp it up with more qpf we run the risk of waa. It's never easy
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I was just gonna say that GFS run for those of us north of 85 remained all snow. 5" from roughly my house to your house.
 
I was just gonna say that GFS run for those of us north of 85 remained all snow. 5" from roughly my house to your house.
I see, hadn't even looked that closely at the GFS this morning lol. I think on the northern fringes you can make up for less qpf with higher ratios, gonna be a narrow money spot in there somewhere
 
the ice trending north out of Georgia&South Carolina will push the heaviest snowfall ever so slightly north…gonna be a sweet spot somewhere closer to us now. It’s a rug pull so to speak last minute, sleet/zr really gonna kill a lot of areas in the snowfall department.
I think you’re mostly right here. There will be a big winner somewhere between Murphy and Hendersonville that stays all snow. Prob an 8-10” report
 
15 this am in middle Tenn. Hasn’t been above freezing in several days. We should accumulate every flake that falls unless something tragic happens
 
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