Blue_Ridge_Escarpment
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18Z NAM through hour 69 has 1.36 qpf at MRN
12Z NAM through hour 75 had 0.37 qpf at MRN
12Z NAM through hour 75 had 0.37 qpf at MRN
FYI:Sounds like WNC during Helene. If I learned a few things from that time that will buy you a few days, it's this:
- Keep a battery powered radio on hand. A lot of good information gets put out on the radio when all other lines of comms are down.
- Keep some cash on hand. Cards didn't work when communications went down.
- Fill up your cars and if you have an extra gas can, keep one filled up. I ran out of gas trying to find gas.
- Go grab some dry foods for easy storage and easy cooking. Not bread and milk.
Just saw that. Of course it looks like that is thru 7AM Sunday, so there will be more to come. But I will take any positives at this point.Seems like GSP lowered ice totals in their latest winter storm watch
Valid 3kNAM and NAM are quite differentTakes sleet down into NEGAView attachment 187685
Those areas could get widespread power problems with up to an inch of zrI’m quite concerned for an elderly relative in Fayetteville, NC who requires a plug in oxygenator. I’m keeping her updated on the wx.
Any educated guesses as to whether or not that area will likely have widespread power outages? Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
@Webberweather53 since that’s your hometown and you’ve got a great knowledge of their history
I’m quite concerned for an elderly relative in Fayetteville, NC who requires a plug in oxygenator. I’m keeping her updated on the wx.
Any educated guesses as to whether or not that area will likely have widespread power outages? Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
@Webberweather53 since that’s your hometown and you’ve got a great knowledge of their history

I assume the orange sleet over Columbia includes zr?
Wow -- between 66 and 72 hours it goes from a massive shield of frozen precip covering 4-5 states to a squall line of rain.
Massive changes on the 18z NAM, it's shellacking central NC with a sleetstorm after the dry slot on the 12z run.
Yeap and the CAD is reinforcing from NE to SW here and warm temps are regressing
Thundersnow too up near the sleet/snow line.....absolute sleet nuke, there’s probably gonna be a couple instances of thundersleet View attachment 187691View attachment 187692
The question is... how much of this sleet is replacing the ZR?absolute sleet nuke, there’s probably gonna be a couple instances of thundersleet View attachment 187691View attachment 187692
absolute sleet nuke, there’s probably gonna be a couple instances of thundersleet View attachment 187691View attachment 187692
I'm relatively close (Dunn/Lillington) and I have the same wonders. I'm prepared to lose power for a few days but it's effectively a gamble of whether we have catastrophic ZR or if we make an early switch to rain, or both (rain after damage is done). I don't have a great barometer for ice storms here but just across the line in Sampson Co I didn't have power for 6 days after Matthew in 2016. Duke Energy will take a lot longer to get out to rural areas than the electric co-ops like South River EMC will.I’m quite concerned for an elderly relative in Fayetteville, NC who requires a plug in oxygenator. I’m keeping her updated on the wx.
Any educated guesses as to whether or not that area will likely have widespread power outages? Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
@Webberweather53 since that’s your hometown and you’ve got a great knowledge of their history
Just getting home from work and getting caught up. Webb I will say that February 1994 storm still managed to have about 8-10 hours of sleet at my parents house in Concord that accumulated to about 1.5”. It was a different set up than this obviously in that the CAD pushed in after the precip startedWhat scares me about this ice storm in nc is how strong the warm nose is.
Normally we can cool the low level cad some enough to avoid freezing rain, but that may not be the case here quite as much. Could be a much tougher battle this time around
In all my years of religiously tracking these winter storms, I have never a warm nose this strong on the models.
I had to go back over 30 years to find an event (Feb 1994) with something comparable.
Not sure how much a drier trend would help us here. My guess is not a lot in the ice/freezing rain department because we’re trading volume of precip for ice accrual efficiency.
I also thought this paragraph was important:A great FFC afternoon discussion- https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=FFC&product=AFD&glossary=1
A snippet
"Subsequent tweaks (and eventual upgrades) to our Winter Storm Watch
are likely to come either overnight tonight or tomorrow. The broader
picture -- a potentially major ice storm across portions of north
and central Georgia -- is becoming more and more certain, but fine
details that may determine the magnitude of impacts are likely still
to come as this event enters the short term. Continue to work on
preparations if you are in or close to the aforementioned areas, and
endeavor to be ready to enact your preparations, and postpone
travel, by Saturday when conditions begin to deteriorate."
Looks like it's a little slower than last run.Seems like the 18z runs are kind of wonky -- precip fields seem different, but not in any kind of trendy way. 18z ICON kind of looks like it's pooping out of precip at 60 hours and then at 66 ... somebody cuts the lights on -- yikes!
Noticed that. Fills in pretty quickly soon after though.Much less precip on the ICON as of Sunday morning. Interesting shift
I was about to say, the delay is probably the reason for the ever so slight temp increases, less dynamic cooling from precip.Much less precip on the ICON as of Sunday morning. Interesting shift
There is pretty absurd potential along the SC escarpment, far NE GA, and the Highlands NC vicinity.There will be people on the eastern slopes of the nc/sc line at 2500/3000ft who will see 2+ inches of ice. IMO
1. They’re going to be like 10 degrees at the surface for most of the storm
2. They won’t get any sleet bc they don’t have that extra 2000ft of air to freeze falling water droplets.
3. They are the epicenter of the precip maxima and they always overperform on qpf. I bet they get 3+ inches of liquid.
Thoughts?