Tsappfrog20
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14 at my house this morning
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Pattern December Doldrums 2025 🎄 ❄️
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Webberweather53
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Can see some patches of snow on visible over far eastern NC this morning.
D-Ray
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14 this morning
Nice cold morning, but man...I am SO tired of seeing this thing continuing to sit in the same spot as far as the eye can see.
15 here, colder than forecast by 4-5 degrees iirc.
Got down to 13.2 on my elevated thermometer and 10.6 on my ground level thermometer. RDU got down to 14, and they will end up with 12 hours of temps in the teens.
Brent
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Yeah really nothing below 60 showing up once the Christmas torch hits here and that's almost January by then
CNCsnwfan1210
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Overnight EPS did trend colder for 12/24 vs the 12z run
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Only down to 15.1.
Xlhunter3
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13.5 F in North Durham.
15F is the coldest IMBY since 12F on 1/21/24, and coldest Dec low since 12/26/22 (also 15F)
i imagine for many of my neighbors, it is the same case
i imagine for many of my neighbors, it is the same case
Oconeexman
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Its wild the drastic switching between runs now at 10 days on the operationals. I guess a weak CAD is better than a torch for some but is useless down here.
12.4 meh...next
Brent
Member
The warm Christmas analogs here... One snowed 14 inches after and one snowed.... 0.2 after.....
That helped truly
That helped truly
It was so cold this morning the Dodge 5500 wouldn’t crank. When we warmed up above 20 she fired right up
rusrius
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Made it to 15 this morning. A balmy 21 now.
this graph depressed me again this morning
If I can't get snow/cold: Still find a way to win:
This Saturday looks good to me, got 30 coming over ( high 40's) so I can send the younger ones out in the Pasteur to rumble around.
Waiting on one more set of runs and Booking tee times 12/26-12/27. It's any many mighty moe etc trying to peg the CAD days down.
On the webcam I see the slopes firing Guns on all cylinders. They are off to a banter start. Has to be pure powder up there this a.m., see some brave hearts getting it done in 6 degree air up at Beech. Hopefully they can get some below freezing nights , to maintain. Snowpack gonna takes some blows across the chin next couple weeks durig the daytime at a minimum.
And to join the choir. That block over to the west Alaska, just will not budge. Been there for what, at least 2 weeks now, and is still sitting there on the ens, as far as eye can see.
This Saturday looks good to me, got 30 coming over ( high 40's) so I can send the younger ones out in the Pasteur to rumble around.
Waiting on one more set of runs and Booking tee times 12/26-12/27. It's any many mighty moe etc trying to peg the CAD days down.
On the webcam I see the slopes firing Guns on all cylinders. They are off to a banter start. Has to be pure powder up there this a.m., see some brave hearts getting it done in 6 degree air up at Beech. Hopefully they can get some below freezing nights , to maintain. Snowpack gonna takes some blows across the chin next couple weeks durig the daytime at a minimum.
And to join the choir. That block over to the west Alaska, just will not budge. Been there for what, at least 2 weeks now, and is still sitting there on the ens, as far as eye can see.
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Webberweather53
Meteorologist
This looks like CAD purgatory. Lovely
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
If we want to score something good near or just after the New Year, we will probably need to really shorten the wavelengths and cut something off underneath this retrograding -NAO block to time it up with one of these big CAD highs.
I say that because I don’t think we’re moving the Aleutian ridge anytime soon :/. I’d feel better about the odds of something like that happening later in Feb or Mar even but I guess crazier things have happened
I say that because I don’t think we’re moving the Aleutian ridge anytime soon :/. I’d feel better about the odds of something like that happening later in Feb or Mar even but I guess crazier things have happened
It feels like we've been talking about the immovable Aleution ridge for weeks, if not months. Yet, the eastern US, other than a few days, has been much below normal for weeks as well. Even this week, we start the first couple of days frigid, and likely go below normal again this weekend after a couple of days of moderation. What gives?If we want to score something good near or just after the New Year, we will probably need to really shorten the wavelengths and cut something off underneath this retrograding -NAO block to time it up with one of these big CAD highs.
I say that because I don’t think we’re moving the Aleutian ridge anytime soon :/. I’d feel better about the odds of something like that happening later in Feb or Mar even but I guess crazier things have happened
Alan Huffman, this morning said he believes we will be warm until at least Mid January.
Just thought I’d pass along some more depressing news. Have a great day everyone!
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Just thought I’d pass along some more depressing news. Have a great day everyone!
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I really like that if we can build a good strong -NAO like we’re seeing signs of, it could get the job done as we head towards peak climo. There is serious cold building in Canada
Twister
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That's good news to me, I hope he's right
SuperNET
Member
Low of 16 here - with 17 hours at or below 32.
It hasn't been in that spot for months.
Yep...we've had a very favorable pattern the past few weeks...
But our worst miserable winters have been when the gigantic aletutian ridge sets up shop where it's being modeled. I get it...."it's not winter yet"...."models are always wrong"...."CAD will save us"...
That big aleutian ridge will only promote a strong PV...but I won't bring that up. I'm not sure how we get out of this mess anytime soon.
Do you see a solid meteorological reason that that block will remain locked over that location through most of the winter?
I still think we see maybe a change mid January but that's more hope than anything. Our canonical pattern the past almost decade has been an aleutian ridge...that's the world we live in.
From early 2000's to roughly 2016 we had a magical pattern run....so hopefully this terrible aleutian ridge runs its course soon...hopefully by 2030.
NBAcentel
Member
Next years likely Nino might do the trick… maybe even a modoki Nino
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Nice little cad event on the gfs at day 7-8.
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Like I said earlier, this pattern is CAD purgatory. You gotta take what you can get, because relative to the pattern we’re in, that’s probably about the best we can do
NBAcentel
Member
What about the last few modoki Nino years
Sure seems like, lol. It has been there for the duration of this recent cold spell, no?
SnowNiner
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Yeah, enso seems to have little to do with our problem the last 8-10 years or so (I'd argue 2014 was the last great winter for mby). Nino or nina, western troughing and the SE ridge prevails. And we're relegated to hoping for Miller B CAD miracles when a 50/50 forms. I think it's the warming of the ocean at the equator in the bad phases of the mjo/Indian ocean/maritimes that's the problem. Puts the forcing in the wrong spot for us and we get Aleutian ridges.
Nothing really to say about the long term. It's just more of the same, and I hope it gets switched up out in the pacific sometime in January.