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Wintry January 3rd-6th, 2018 Winter Storm The ARCC/Xtreme Weather Special

I have a feeling the radar is going to be painful to watch tonight...

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I wonder if there is any scenario left on the table where this thing surprises to the upside here? I'm not seeing any developments currently that would argue for that. I guess we have to hope that the low somehow bombs out close to the coast. I guess that's all we have.
 
I wonder if there is any scenario left on the table where this thing surprises to the upside here? I'm not seeing any developments currently that would argue for that. I guess we have to hope that the low somehow bombs out close to the coast. I guess that's all we have.
Rah says turn out the lights

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I just can't believe we have a low coming up the coast and can't get snow here. What about all the talk this morning about the precip being more west due to it going negative tilt sooner? What happened with that?
 
I just can't believe we have a low coming up the coast and can't get snow here. What about all the talk this morning about the precip being more west due to it going negative tilt sooner? What happened with that?

Models think its too dry for the low to produce a healthy flow of atlantic moisture. It would be fun to have access to a model where a human could edit the variables. ie. "what if Raleigh's Td was 25 right meow and not 7"
 
Models think its too dry for the low to produce a healthy flow of atlantic moisture. It would be fun to have access to a model where a human could edit the variables. ie. "what if Raleigh's Td was 25 right meow and not 7"

Yes, it's unfornate that to get blockbuster snowstorms, you need borderline temps not only at the surface, but in the upper atmosphere as well. It's simply difficult to get much when your 850s are -8C. You want to be around -3C or so to get good snows.
 
As Web alluded to, RAL DP just dropped 10f in 30 mins and LP doesn't look to bomb out til just off the OBX if we're lucky. Gonna be tough but I can't completely write off a few scattered flurries in the Triangle
 
Paraphrase "east, east, nope, sorry, coastal plain"

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I just saw their video they shared on Twitter, gotta love how they say the GFS has been rock solid with this system



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So I started reading this forum during hurricane Irma, and you all helped a lot with predictions. I’m going to be in Boone, NC from today til Friday. What can I expect as far as ice/dangerous road conditions goes?
 
So I started reading this forum during hurricane Irma, and you all helped a lot with predictions. I’m going to be in Boone, NC from today til Friday. What can I expect as far as ice/dangerous road conditions goes?
Welcome to the board! Good to see another Florida poster here! I would expect maybe a few flakes up in Boone and bitter cold.
 
I just saw their video they shared on Twitter, gotta love how they say the GFS has been rock solid with this system



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Guess we're supposed to forget all the times it's shown a big winter storm here only to be wrong.
 
Welcome to the board! Good to see another Florida poster here! I would expect maybe a few flakes up in Boone and bitter cold.
Thank you. We are thin blooded floridians, and negative temps after wind chill are a new experience. We will share the conditions in NW North Carolina. Thanks :)
 
It feels like Raleigh has just not been in the best spot for storms over the past couple of years. I feel we will get a big one soon enough though.
 
Can't win here. I don't think we have a good idea what we need to get snow here anymore. It seems when we do lately it's usually a last minute surprise, like with the Christmas 2010 storm.

When the models do show a huge storm, the setup says no and the models end up being wrong. When we have a great setup, the models say no and end up being right.
 
We need that flow at 500mb to back to the se instead of sw to pull in that Atlantic feed.


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Those returns are blossoming coming across state line. Not all virga. Long shot but if storm can stay on more north ly heading for a while longer, some of us might luck up and catch 30 to 60 mins of flakes.
 
Maybe the sun can create some instability and spark some heavy snow showers under those towering cumulonimbus clouds.
 
Yea Here comes our best and only shot out this way:
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I see all that moisture to the south and think that's got to come north over us.
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