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Tropical Major Hurricane Laura

So much for that Louisiana consensus

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I’m just surprised to see a model solution this far west into Texas... obviously it could very well be correct in the end, but it just looks to me like the Bermuda high should keep steering this thing and if it does the most likely outcome would be western or central Louisiana.
 
I’m just surprised to see a model solution this far west into Texas... obviously it could very well be correct in the end, but it just looks to me like the Bermuda high should keep steering this thing and if it does the most likely outcome would be western or central Louisiana.

Lol I mean the EPS is usually good though now granted the Euro has been horrible with this storm but it's always better to look at ensembles I'm not convinced one way or the other but look how much Marco shifted 2 days out it could still easily be Central Louisiana but I wouldn't write off Texas at all especially with the track having shifted south near Cuba since yesterday
 
I have a question for experts. If Marco fell apart because of bad contions why will laura get stronger in the same place?
I’m far from an expert, but I can say that the shearing that tore Marco apart earlier today is exiting the Gulf and an area of very calm winds aloft is moving in... that plus the water temperatures of 85-87 degrees throughout the Gulf is a perfect set up to intensify a hurricane rapidly.
 
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FWIW 12z RGEM earlier today was a bit north and east vrs 6z
 
I’m far from an expert, but I can say that the shearing that tore Marco apart earlier today is exiting the Gulf and an area of very calm winds aloft is moving in... that plus the water temperatures of 85-87 degrees throughout the Gulf is a perfect set up to intensify a hurricane rapidly.
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Hurricane and storm surge watches issued for the Northwestern Gulf Coast.
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WTNT33 KNHC 242044
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BULLETIN
Tropical Storm Laura Advisory Number 20
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132020
500 PM EDT Mon Aug 24 2020

...CENTER OF LAURA PASSING NEAR THE ISLE OF YOUTH....
...HURRICANE AND STORM SURGE WATCHES ISSUED FOR A PORTION OF THE
NORTHWEST GULF COAST...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...21.7N 82.2W
ABOUT 40 MI...65 KM E OF THE ISLE OF YOUTH
ABOUT 175 MI...280 KM E OF THE WESTERN TIP OF CUBA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...60 MPH...95 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 290 DEGREES AT 20 MPH...31 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1001 MB...29.56 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect from San Luis Pass, Texas, to Ocean
Springs, Mississippi, including Lake Pontchartrain, Lake Maurepas,
and Lake Borgne for areas outside of the southeast Louisiana
Hurricane and Storm Damage Risk Reduction System.

A Hurricane Watch is in effect from Port Bolivar, Texas, to
west of Morgan City, Louisiana.

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect from south of Port Bolivar to
San Luis Pass Texas and from Morgan City to the Mouth of the
Mississippi River.

The Tropical Storm Warning for Little Cayman and Cayman Brac has
been discontinued.

The Tropical Storm Warning for the Cuban provinces of Camaguey and
Las Tunas has been discontinued.
 
They mentioned the EPS being way left too

The latest runs of the dynamical models are in a
little better agreement, but the 1200 UTC ECMWF ensemble mean is
located considerably left of its deterministic run, indicating that
uncertainty regarding the track forecast remains154444_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png
 
They mentioned the EPS being way left too

The latest runs of the dynamical models are in a
little better agreement, but the 1200 UTC ECMWF ensemble mean is
located considerably left of its deterministic run, indicating that
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Call me crazy but I'd be looking real hard at a ukmet ens and euro ensemble average. That tends to be a good combo 3 to 5 days out.
 
18z GFS is stronger and a bit west than the last run through 48 hours.
 
18z GFS has it making landfall as a 954 MB hurricane on the Louisiana coast.
 
I’m far from an expert, but I can say that the shearing that tore Marco apart earlier today is exiting the Gulf and an area of very calm winds aloft is moving in... that plus the water temperatures of 85-87 degrees throughout the Gulf is a perfect set up to intensify a hurricane rapidly.

Not only that, but the trough that killed Marco will give Laura a dang good northern outflow channel.
 
18z Icon and GFS are practically the same as the last 2 runs.....and.....represented by an H on the NHC map....

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Looks like it's finally making the more northward turn. Also not sure if the mlc/llc might still be a little disjointed or the center may be a little elongated
 
18z HWRF.....slightly west compared to previous run.....aligned with Icon and GFS. 929 prior to landfall......staying consistent with the 930ish idea...

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18z HWRF.....slightly west compared to previous run.....aligned with Icon and GFS. 929 prior to landfall......staying consistent with the 930ish idea...

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Add ~30 mb to these consistent HWRF 930ish pressures and I think that will be in the ballpark of actual pressure at landfall with 950 on the low end. Still a very dangerous storm obviously and surge/rainfall may be really high, too.
 
Add ~30 mb to these consistent HWRF 930ish pressures and I think that will be in the ballpark of actual pressure at landfall with 950 on the low end. Still a very dangerous storm obviously and surge/rainfall may be really high, too.
So we've got
12z EURO 988.....NOTE: 18z goes to 938.....guess HWRF isn't so crazy...as I thought
Icon 968
GFS. 953
UK. 954
HWRF 929
NAM. 890
Joe B. Is right. Three days away and we really don't know what to tell people.....this could be anywhere between nothing and a beast....
 
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So we've got
EURO 988
Icon 968
GFS. 953
UK. 954
HWRF 929
NAM. 890
Joe B. Is right. Three days away and we really don't know what to tell people.....this could be anywhere between nothing and a beast....

Agree but it will not make landfall at 890mb. That would be the strongest storm to ever make landfall


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So we've got
EURO 988
Icon 968
GFS. 953
UK. 954
HWRF 929
NAM. 890
Joe B. Is right. Three days away and we really don't know what to tell people.....this could be anywhere between nothing and a beast....

I would take the average and say it's going to be at least a category 3.
 
So we've got
EURO 988
Icon 968
GFS. 953
UK. 954
HWRF 929
NAM. 890
Joe B. Is right. Three days away and we really don't know what to tell people.....this could be anywhere between nothing and a beast....
Have to think something in the 960-970 range seems likely. I'll be interested to see where we are around 18z tomorrow when most models really start taking off.
 
Have to think something in the 960-970 range seems likely. I'll be interested to see where we are around 18z tomorrow when most models really start taking off.
Do you think theres a chance of a east shift in the models before landfall? That's a sharp right hook and it wouldn't take much for something to change that track
 
Do you think theres a chance of a east shift in the models before landfall? That's a sharp right hook and it wouldn't take much for something to change that track
I doubt it unless it really struggles to get going even then central La coast is as far east as I could see. The real potential error is left to me and this thing inching closer to Houston.

Also some questions for the short term are does the continued persistent convection to the south help bias the LLC to the SW? Is the new stuff going up over cuba to the E of the center the start of a more concentrated CDO and it sheds the stuff on the south side
 
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Even a blind squirrel. Remember when it had Gonzalo as like a 930mb in the islands?
Except, this time, conditions in the Gulf have looked favorable for solid intensification. I am really concerned that a particularly dire situation developing. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this is sub 940 and strengthening into the coast, unless some miracle dry air appears or it interacts more than expected with Cuba or we get an ERC close to shore.
 
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