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Was it worth it shutting down the economy for what is now unfolding in not just America but the world. Yes lives were lost but to think that a Great Depression in today’s time want kill more than the virus does. I sure hope those individuals are right. Just look at the news starting to come out with only not even a month of lockdowns. Riots at prisons. Looting. Robberies. Domestic assaults. Child abuse. Hunger. Poverty. Bankruptcies. All these are increasing. All over America and the world. Longer locked down worse all these will get. Yes we will be ok but at what cost?
 
I don't think the majority of the media has an agenda with this unless it's the far right media (Fox, Breitbart, OAN) carrying the water for Trump trying to cover up his incompetence or the Far Left (MSNBC) who is probably spending too much time focusing on his blunders.
So you could only come up with MSNBC as far left, that says a lot. In regards to Fox, I agree they lean right, but they at least have hosts/major contributors(Chris Wallace and Brit Hume to name a couple) who don't pull punches. Finding somebody at the left leaning news orgs willing to step outside the "bash trump no matter what" talking points is close to impossible.
 
Nope can’t do that an overreach and overreaction. So going to risk law enforcement for this stupid order.
There is no way in hell they can enforce that. I think that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. What is the point of saving our "life" if we can't go see our friends and family? Since when is this up to the "government"? I think it's time to call up the "well regulated militia", at least in Michigan, anyway.
 
There are some absolutes. Truth is absolute, and truth is different from opinions.

His statement is exactly what happens when you entire worldview is blurred with idolatry and beliefs.....you cant tell anyone like that anything, nor can you change their view of the truth regardless of how wrong they are. They see the "truth" in everything they believe.....their version of society and way of life is the only valid one and anyone who does not agree does so because they cant see the "truth"or are the enemy bent on destroying it etc etc etc....its why for the most part conspiracy theorist come from the extreme ends of the political landscape.
 
So if two thermometers are 2 feet apart; one is in the Sun and says 95 and the other is in the shade and says 80; it seems they're both the truth from what I'm reading.

The person standing in the Sun is hot and the person in the shade is cold but that's their opinion because the thermometers are the only truth.

My house can be 70 and my wife says it's hot and I say it's comfortable; to me they're all the truth; the thermometer is based on a scientific measurement (but has it been calibrated properly so maybe it's 69 or 70 so is it really the truth); my wife's truth about it being hot is not an opinion it's the truth her body tells her, my truth is it's comfortable because that's what my body is telling me and I'm right 99% of the time at home; just don't tell my wife because her truth is she's right 99% of the time.

This is more fun than some of the political crap..
 
Nope can’t do that an overreach and overreaction. So going to risk law enforcement for this stupid order.

This is what brings about armed revolution ...
I lived up there ... those folks in the countryside are very independent ... gonna see some reaction, no doubt ...

To the Governor of Michigan:

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To the Governor of Michigan:

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Watch out, because she is a potential candidate for VP.

 
So if two thermometers are 2 feet apart; one is in the Sun and says 95 and the other is in the shade and says 80; it seems they're both the truth from what I'm reading.

The person standing in the Sun is hot and the person in the shade is cold but that's their opinion because the thermometers are the only truth.

My house can be 70 and my wife says it's hot and I say it's comfortable; to me they're all the truth; the thermometer is based on a scientific measurement (but has it been calibrated properly so maybe it's 69 or 70 so is it really the truth); my wife's truth about it being hot is not an opinion it's the truth her body tells her, my truth is it's comfortable because that's what my body is telling me and I'm right 99% of the time at home; just don't tell my wife because her truth is she's right 99% of the time.

This is more fun than some of the political crap..
Totally misses the point. It’s not complicated folks.
 
This is what brings about armed revolution ...
I lived up there ... those folks in the countryside are very independent ... gonna see some reaction, no doubt ...

I’m from the Upper Peninsula. Yep. A Yooper. More rednecks per square mile in rural Michigan and Wisconsin than in the entire south.
 
Perhaps we need a separate thread to discuss matters of philosophy. But the statement that started this discussion was: “Truth is in the eye of the beholder.”

That statement is a logical fallacy. If truth is determined individually then there is no such thing as truth.

Many people believe in “relativism,” which denies an objective standard of truth. If that’s what you believe, then that’s fine. But don’t use the word truth.
 
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