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Shaggy
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Oddly googling "Trumps fox news rant" doesnt list any fox articles on it.
It's like trumps a robot and someone stick a hairpin in his head and he got all freakaseded out. I mean when it boils down to it the bad things he had heard was probably the not hanging his picture BS. The embassy spokesperson has already said the pictures were hung as soon as they came from Washington.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fox-news-yovanovitch-ukraine-impeachment-embassy-picture-1473493
I'm not taking up for Trump just because , but I think that it is customary for all Ambassador offices across the world to hang a picture of the current president. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Shaggy
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They did hang it. Why is trump so bent out of shape over the picture if she was working against his policies. Why would he call fox and rant about the picture instead of laying out facts that she was trashing him. Its bizarre behavior.
Shaggy
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This is from a CBS link.
Lawyers for former Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch say President Donald Trump’s claim that she refused to hang his picture in the U.S. embassy in Ukraine is false.
“The Embassy in Kyiv hung the official photographs of the president, vice president, and secretary of state as soon as they arrived from Washington, D.C.,” a person connected to her legal team said,
Trump told "Fox & Friends" on Friday morning that he was angry with the former ambassador because “she wouldn’t hang my picture in the [U.S.] embassy [in Ukraine].” The president also told the talk show that Republican lawmakers had told him to be "kind to her" because "she's a woman."
The Washington Post reported in 2017 that pictures of Trump and Vice President Mike Pence still were not being displayed on thousands of federal buildings nearly eight months into Trump's term because the Government Publishing Office had yet to receive the images from the White House. The White House, in turn, said Trump and Pence hadn't decided when to sit for the portraits.
Downeastnc
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Its not bizarre behavior for someone with as bad a a case of NPD as Trump has......Trump doesnt want to be president he wants to be king or maybe a mob boss is more accurate, that is how he views being president he thinks everyone should just do exactly what he says and that everything he says and does is right and smarter than what anyone else can think or do and he cant understand why he gets so much push back.
I agree, that's stupid.
pcbjr
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The whole frickin' thing is stupid ... top to bottom, and don't forget left to right ...
Heelyes
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Why is it legal to charge 500.00 for a dose of insulin that costs 5.00 to make but if someone charges 5.00 for a gallon of water after a storm it's a crime?
Shaggy
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My wife's a nurse and she has access to the employee pharmacy. I can literally get a bottle of 100 allegra for $2.50. In the hospital they'd charge $10 a pill.
Downeastnc
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Yep the reason is because of no pays.....the hospital see's patients, spends thousands of dollars on their care and then never get reimbursed for it because they don't have insurance and never pay their bills.....so they pass that on to the folks that do pay. So I agree its not directly the insurance companies fault, however should hospitals refuse to care for someone who has no insurance and probably is not going to pay their bills.......its a bad situation I mean this is the USA for crying out loud no one should be dying from lack of medical care, at the same time there is no way to reasonably afford a single payer system. I pay $300 dollars a month or my health care benefits at work and then we have a $3000 deductible luckily the company puts $1000 in our HSA accounts every year so that helps with the normal stuff
Looks like 538 has Trump impeachment polling almost equal now as support continues to slide.
Downeastnc
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Just wait till Bolton drops the hammer....seems he might be about to unload....
Crowdstrike is real.
Wait I thought Taylor, no wait Sondland, oh I see Bolton is the one with the hammer now.
I think it’s time to face fact, for right or wrong, while the hammers are being dropped, public opinion is an anvil and the hammers just bounce.
If public opinion is waning due to the testimony they have heard, nothing concerning the Quid Pro Quo will shake them. Bolton needs to have a tape of Trump speaking Russian planning on putting a Nuke in Ohio.
I would think it is. And didn't Obama fire most or all ambassodors when he arrived....where were the tears?
Shaggy
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So you disbelieve the ENTIRE intelligence community? The people who work to keep our nation safe are all lying about crowdstrike? It was the Russians it was always the Russians.
The short answer is YES and I believe that it is where Hillary's server went. I believe Hillary sold us out to China. It's not just Russia. Do you believe in the James Comey's FBI at this point? We would't have questioned that before...Dossier? Fisa warrants? This is a horrible thing to put on us to have to figure and second guess our government...Awful but the truth is coming and like a D5 avalanche regardless of if we like Trump's ways and policies. No matter what side we are on. It is a blessing actually for all Americans to know what our government has been doing. The Bidens are just the tip of the iceburg. We deserve to know...
I have to ask..What hammer and where do you think?
This has been hinted about a lot lately. Some of the Bad actors are getting out ahead of the IG report due on December 9th.
Shaggy
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The report is going to say that the Russia investigation was on the up and up. What will then be the excuse? Horowitz gonna be a deep state plant?
It was Russia last year it was Russia this year and it will be Russia in the future. Putin is the Russian equivalent to trump. He wants to make russia great again and when was Russia the greatest in his eyes? When they were at war with the USA.
Downeastnc
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This is going to disappoint many Trumpers......
Downeastnc
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The investigation into Trump and Russia is on the up and up because Trump and his team were working with the Russians so you know that pretty much takes care of that. The IG report will whine about some basic stuff but in the end it will find everything the leadership of the FBI did to be valid and warranted, if that is the case will you admit that Trump is just paranoid and trying to deflect from the very real scandals and corruption he and his admin are committing or will you just say its all a "deep state" plot too.
Cad Wedge NC
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There are going to be a lot of folks surprised about what our government officials have been doing ... if it all comes out. I think it's time "We The People" know the truth.
I very much realize that it may not end up like we think.. but I do know that eventually it will all come out. I can promise that.
The IG report will probably read as the NYT’s preview last night said. It will criticize the FBI here and there and pin it all on low level agents. The fact is anyone high level is invulnerable, from either party. That is just the way it is and the way it will be.
Shaggy
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I tend to agree. Right now we have someone in the highest level right now that is being defended vigorously and that's why its way it will be. Nobody wants to clean out their own closet.
I don’t think anybody wants to clean out the opposition’s closet either. Probably some type of closet agreement that you can gripe and investigate the opposition, but when the rubber meets the road you are only allowed to spin your tires. No telling what hides in the closets up there in DC that both parties will protect.
Yes it's in both parties.
Downeastnc
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Well lets start with demanding Trump allow Rudy, Pompeo, Mulvaney, Bolton and all the others to testify in the impeachment hearing.....hopefully the judge that is ruling on Monday follows the very well established precedent that executive privilege does not apply to impeachment processes and then those people will be forced to testify or go to jail.
I have the 30-40 million dollar Mueller report on my desk. I think we can move on from that. I disagree about the IG report. No way is what Comey, McCabe, Strozk and Page etc. did going to be deemed valid or warranted. Your ok with Illegal spying and getting help to do so from other countries? Surely not. That is treason. If that's the case then any election to come is tainted. Maybe we should just go ahead and start spying and impeachment on any person running we don't like. The bad actors in the 3 letter agencies, a dossier paid for by Clinton and the DNC, unverified info to get fisa warrants to spy on a campaign and American citizens... definitely not valid. I get it...some think Trump is paranoid, brash, loud, silly, childish and every other thing they can come up with but who can blame him after what he was met with. Not fair at all. But he's also a BULL and a fighter and Now it's on! The bible says to turn the other cheek but I see no where it says to be a doormat. He's not a politician and the machine hates him because he is exposing and shaking things up. That is a good thing even for haters. He is working for zero and has no reason to do the things that some accuse him of. He was already King. He was the Donald and everybody loved him. Had no reason to put himself and his family through this hell. The coup started immediately. But....Proof and evidence will tell the tell. The corrupt will go down. Nothing will stop it...A great time to be alive. It's about to get real interesting..no matter how the media wants to downplay it. In the end we are all in this together.
OMG! Arcc just single handedly hit the nail on the head as why the establishment hates Trump. He doesn't care about protecting the DC closets nor abiding by the DC code. Such a disgusting game and definitely not for We The People.
VegasEagle
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VegasEagle
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You should reconsider voting if you are going to choose to stay so uninformed.
You post B.S. nonstop. There is no "coup," the only "rigging" was in Trump's favor. Do you want a "King?"
Remember how Trump in 2016 said the election was going to be rigged over and over? Did you believe him then? No? Is that because it would mean it was rigged in his favor?
You're saying this next election will be rigged and you might be right, but if Trump wins, does the story change to "nevermind, it wasn't rigged???"
VegasEagle
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Just so easy!
Control of narrative = control of public opinion
Control of public opinion = power
How do you control the narrative?
Information warfare.
Control of narrative = control of public opinion
Control of public opinion = power
How do you control the narrative?
Information warfare.
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I’m genuinely looking forward to when this thing goes to the senate and Adam Schiff gets called to testify. His days in the political realm are numbered
VegasEagle
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What happens when 90% of the media is controlled/owned by (6) corporations?
What happens when those same corporations are operated and controlled by a political ideology?
What happens when the news is no longer free from bias?
What happens when the news is no longer reliable and independent?
What happens when the news is no longer trustworthy?
What happens when the news simply becomes an extension/arm of a political party?
Fact becomes fiction?
Fiction becomes fact?
When does news become propaganda?
Identity creation?
How does the average person, who is under constant financial stress (by design), find time to research and discern fact v fiction?
Majority of people more prone to believe someone in power sitting behind a big brand ‘news’ name?
What happens when those same corporations are operated and controlled by a political ideology?
What happens when the news is no longer free from bias?
What happens when the news is no longer reliable and independent?
What happens when the news is no longer trustworthy?
What happens when the news simply becomes an extension/arm of a political party?
Fact becomes fiction?
Fiction becomes fact?
When does news become propaganda?
Identity creation?
How does the average person, who is under constant financial stress (by design), find time to research and discern fact v fiction?
Majority of people more prone to believe someone in power sitting behind a big brand ‘news’ name?
VegasEagle
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