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Tropical Tropical storm Claudette

Haven't really dug in the data yet but there may be a legit flooding threat for central alabama depending on the placement of the northeast quadrant of the low. going to give it another day before I actually say what I think. Instability is decent in the southeast quadrant but like what I said earlier tornadoes in a tropical storm are like QCLS tornadoes in alabama. Although there are exceptions. Kinda interested. Lapse rates are absolute garbage, but not really looking for ideal tornado parameters I'n a tropical system setup.
 
Even more intrigued on this event now. The low both on the euro and gfs. More so euro, have the tropical low syncing together with the jetstream... Diffluence too boot. Lot of energy. modernweenie
 
I’m very interested in the Tornado potential with this one.


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Me too! Although I don't know much about tropical events. I'd say a more sloppier low with broken convection on the southeast quadrant would be the worst outcome. But still lot of things shear is really good like usual with tropical systems. Lapse rates are poor, if anything some places are going to get some flooding. There's a lot of features. Got a ridge from the west as well pushing in. This isn't a tornado outbreak by no means not ideal enviroment for sustained updrafts. They'll be like QCLS tornadoes
 
Me too! Although I don't know much about tropical events. I'd say a more sloppier low with broken convection on the southeast quadrant would be the worst outcome. But still lot of things shear is really good like usual with tropical systems. Lapse rates are poor, if anything some places are going to get some flooding. There's a lot of features. Got a ridge from the west as well pushing in. This isn't a tornado outbreak by no means not ideal enviroment for sustained updrafts. They'll be like QCLS tornadoes

I think they will be isolated tornadoes but definitely will be some. And the interaction with the jet stream will be something to keep an eye on


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The good news is if your in the Carolinas and don’t won’t any severe wx from this….pre-tropical cyclones rarely stay on track for 6 days straight! I say odds are there will be little to no impact at this range. I believe it’s foolish to be posting what some are saying on social media for a storm that hasn’t even formed and is in the long range.
 
The good news is if your in the Carolinas and don’t won’t any severe wx from this….pre-tropical cyclones rarely stay on track for 6 days straight! I say odds are there will be little to no impact at this range. I believe it’s foolish to be posting what some are saying on social media for a storm that hasn’t even formed and is in the long range.

Thing about Chris Justice he just keeps it real. I like sharing what he says because he doesn’t really say this is going to happen or that’s going to happen. He’s just saying what the models show he even says he’s not overly concerned about it. The one thing you could probably bank on is increased rain chances late weekend into next week. A lot or a little depends on track


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Just checked the nam 3km before I head off to work, south alabama looks to have a higher than normal tornado potential for a tropical system. Cape almost pushing 4000 joules as the low moves inland. With very good shear. And a broken line. Since this is a CAM. I checked updraft swaths and it shows broken updrafts streaks. Very intrigued by this.. don't have much experience with tropical storms but those are my Thoughts..
 
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Peachtree City GA
434 AM EDT Thu Jun 17 2021


...Morning AFD Discussing Heavy Rainfall Potential with Possible Weekend
Tropical System...

.SHORT TERM /Today through Friday/...

Short term forecast largely quiet with a transition to a more active
weather pattern expected by late Friday. Though still under the
influence of the ridge, models continue to show a weakening trend
with a relaxed pressure gradient through late week. Temperatures
return to at or slightly above normal today with highs in the upper
80s and low 90s and lows not quite as cool Friday.

By Friday afternoon, have introduced slight chance pops in the far
southern CWA as tropical moisture creeps back into the area. This
begins the shift to a wetter pattern in the extended.

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.LONG TERM /Friday Night through Wednesday/...

The long term forecast remains dominated by what will be happening
with current AL92, which as of 2AM EDT has an 80% chance of
formation in 2 days and a 90% chance in 5 days. Air force hurricane
reconnaissance is now scheduled to begin investigating the
disturbance this afternoon if deemed necessary. System remains a
very broad low as is typical with disturbances produced as part of a
Central American Gyre. It is very likely that by the time the long
term picks on Friday night this system will be either a tropical
depression or tropical storm Claudette and will be located within
the western Gulf of Mexico.

The 00Z runs of the GEFS and GFS are interesting in that they
show development of the system occurring a bit further north than
in previous forecast runs. Using the GFS as a proxy, given both
are running the same dynamical core, this development seems to
happen due to an area of stronger convection associated with a
local vortmax on the northern edge of the broader low in the gulf.
This highlights in part why there is still uncertainty around the
system despite getting closer and closer to the period of
development. Initial development may be contingent on correctly
timing convective processes, something long term guidance will
always struggle a bit more with given vertical resolution and
reliance on general convective parameterization schemes. This
development being a bit further north would bump up the timing of
the system a little bit, potentially bringing the heavier rainfall
into the CWA on Saturday night into Sunday morning, rather than
other guidance which still leans toward a Sunday into Monday
timing. For PoPs, have chosen to go ahead and bump things up a bit
Saturday night into Sunday, as even if the system is on the later
Sunday to Monday timing, copious moisture will be streaming in
from the gulf as the door to the tropics will be wide open.

As the system moves through this weekend, two threats continue to
remain - the potential for heavy, flooding rainfall and the
potential for tropical tornadoes. To the first, the exact location
of the track with likely have large impacts. Generally expecting to
see a widespread 3-5" of rain, but some models are beginning to hint
a the potential for a band of heavier precip that could fall
somewhere over the area, with GEFS QPF 90th percentile being in the
5.5" range for ATL and numerous other locations across the CWA. A
band like this would certainly lead to some flash flooding as well
other river based problems. Additionally, orographic lift may see
some much higher totals over the mountains of northeast Georgia.
This all may be exacerbated even more by a cold front moving in
early next week which is discussed below, bringing in another
round of heavier rainfall ahead of it. See the hydro portion of
the AFD for more info on the flooding potential. Models still
continue to advertise high SRH values and enough in the way of
instability to support the low topped supercells that are common
in landfalling tropical systems, another potential threat that
will need to be monitored and will depend on timing and track
location.

Even with the passage of the system, the tropical airmass will hang
around with PWATs in the 1.5-2"+ range. Some significant timing
differences exist between the Euro and GFS regarding a long wave
trough located over the Great Plains on Monday that become more
negatively tilted Tuesday into Wednesday as it moves into the NE
CONUS, with the GFS being much faster than the Euro. GFS also digs
the trough a bit further south. All this leads to differences in
when a cold front moves into the area and how far south it gets.
GFS moves it through Monday night into early Tuesday and clears it
through most of the CWA, whereas Euro stalls it further north.
This will have large impacts on our weather, as the GFS solution
would be mostly dry Tuesday into Wednesday, but the Euro would
bring continued rainfall with likely continued flooding. Have
chosen to leave some lower end PoPs in on Tuesday evening and
Wednesday, as I`m wondering how much the earlier timing of the
tropical system is playing a role in how the GFS progresses the
upper level pattern, as a faster moving trough may be the result
of the faster progression of the tropical low. Many questions
regarding the forecast may be answered once our tropical system`s
progression becomes more clear.

Lusk


&&

.HYDROLOGY...

Concerning weather pattern in the extended periods with a
combination of the Gulf tropical system followed shortly after by a
cold front. This one-two punch of activity is currently advertised
to produce 5 to 7 inches over northeast Georgia, and 3 to 5 along
and north of the fall line. There is a considerable amount of
uncertainty with these amounts given the lopsided nature of the
tropical low, the large spread of model solutions regarding the
timing and position of highest rainfall amounts, and the overall
disagreement between the operational deterministic models and the
ensemble means. At this time, WPC has taken a weighted blend of
the model solutions, leaning more heavily on the 00Z ECMWF which
seems to have the best handle on the situation. Expect these
rainfall amounts to be more finely tuned in the next few days, but
should these totals remain this high, north and central Georgia
is in for a widespread flash flooding event, particularly in the
Chattahoochee, Coosa/Etowah, and Tennessee River basins.

Please note that the Southeast River Forecast Center continues to
use 48 hours of future rainfall in their hydrologic models and
therefore the hydrographs for many area rivers may not fully
consider the entirety of the event.
 
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Claudette is coming

A broad area of low pressure over the southwestern Gulf of Mexico
is producing widespread but disorganized cloudiness, showers, and
thunderstorms. This system is expected to move northward, and a
tropical or subtropical depression is likely to form over the
west-central Gulf of Mexico tonight or early Friday. An Air Force
Reserve Unit reconnaissance aircraft is scheduled to investigate the
disturbance this afternoon, if necessary.
Regardless of
development, heavy rainfall will continue over portions of Central
America and southern Mexico during the next few days. Heavy rains
should also begin to affect portions of the northern Gulf Coast on
Friday. Please consult products from your local meteorological
service for more information.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...90 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent.
 
I'm dumbfounded the 12z 3km nam run actually shows individual cells in the "warm sector". Screenshot_20210617-100647.pngScreenshot_20210617-100633.pngScreenshot_20210617-102601-964.png
 
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