All the Russia talk after 8 years is it prime example of why that scamming party lost. So sorry for the people that follow them.
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Presidential Election 2024
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Stormsfury
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Go ahead then debunk it....
How is Trump Jr meeting with Russian agents to get dirt on Hillary not collusion? How about that....just explain this to me....how is this not accepting Russian interference.
Mueller declined to charge Donald Trump Jr. for meeting with Russian lawyer
Once it became clear the meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer would become public knowledge, senior aides scrambled to respond.www.nbcnews.com
Donald Trump Jr. and other Trump campaign officials involved in the June 2016 meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer were not charged with campaign finance violations in part because it would be difficult to prove the participants knew their conduct was unlawful, special counsel Robert Mueller's redacted report, released Thursday, said.
The meeting, which took place at Trump Tower in New York City on June 9, 2016 was pitched to Trump Jr. as the opportunity for members of Trump's presidential campaign to receive damaging information about Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton from Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.
It is illegal for campaigns to accept help from a foreign government or from foreign nationals.
I could post hundred of links that it was a hoax.
CBS reported it 5 years ago, Mueller Report found NO evidence of collusion.
Even the NYT admitted they got it wrong with the Russia Collusion Story.
But this one from sky news Australia is pretty much gold.
also Adam Schiff was censured because of perpetuating this hoax.
Holy crap..even Al Jazeera English news Channel reported it as a failed narrative lol
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Nah, it's time to put up or shut up. The stinking pile of faked up accusations against the right over the last few years that turned out not to be true is gargantuan.
Like I said the other day, you guys can shout wild and outlandish things with a giant loud MAGA megaphone from the top of Moumt Rushmore until you're blue in the face if you want to. Y'all seem to have nothing better to do, so have at it.
Show us the proof, beyond "because I said so", if you want us to take it seriously. We're done correcting the record around here every day. We've moved on to the Get Things Done phase. Y'all can have the all whining and hand-wringing.
Sandbar
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Guys don't take this the wrong way but when they repeat the same ignorant BS for the 1,000 time, why do you continue to answer them for the 1,000 time? l don't get it......
Go ahead then debunk it....
How is Trump Jr meeting with Russian agents to get dirt on Hillary not collusion? How about that....just explain this to me....how is this not accepting Russian interference.
Mueller declined to charge Donald Trump Jr. for meeting with Russian lawyer
Once it became clear the meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer would become public knowledge, senior aides scrambled to respond.
Donald Trump Jr. and other Trump campaign officials involved in the June 2016 meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer were not charged with campaign finance violations in part because it would be difficult to prove the participants knew their conduct was unlawful, special counsel Robert Mueller's redacted report, released Thursday, said.
The meeting, which took place at Trump Tower in New York City on June 9, 2016 was pitched to Trump Jr. as the opportunity for members of Trump's presidential campaign to receive damaging information about Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton from Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.
It is illegal for campaigns to accept help from a foreign government or from foreign nationals.
Admirable effort, though wasted on deaf ears. It's time to leave all that dust in the rear view man. Let them wallow about in their fog of delusion. It's not going to change. In the meantime, Trump will make all their lives better, as they're kicking and screaming along the way.
Stormsfury
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I'm just bringing the receipts ...
Avalanche
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Yes the ole paid for DNC dossier. Even when the hopeful liberal media was forced to drop it, the crowd on here kept perpetuating it over and over, clinging onto the last bit of hope that something would stick.
Sandbar
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And doing a very good job at that mate!
Shaggy
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Any comments on the recent Russian official comment on what Trump owes them?
Downeastnc
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None of this debunks the Trump Tower meeting.....lets try yes or no...
Did Trump Jr meet with Russian agents on the premise they would give Trump Jr damaging info on his fathers opponent in the 2016 election.....
The meeting happened, it was illegal, it was collusion.....so if Trump Jr met with Russian nationals to get dirt on Hillary then Russian interference happened and was accepted by Trump's team. Its just simple fact, it happened they admit it.
Avalanche
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So you’re saying Trump was doing the job the DOJ should’ve been doing while not even in office yet? Wow what a public servant!!!
Downeastnc
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Whatever you have to tell yourself to make it ok for Trump to accept help from Russia in an election....
Downeastnc
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Yeah this is not going to go well for Gaetz....this makes me happy to see some republicans with a spine and a sense of right and wrong.
Downeastnc
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LOL this is also great....
Avalanche
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Yes because only Socialists have a moral compass.
I heard he owes them some land near Greenville, NC. Dasvidaniya!
Shaggy
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A compass always points north. What good does a moral compass do when it can be applied and dismissed at your whim?
And they call us deniers
Yep, this is it, this is the ONE
Sandbar
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Another hammer? That card is more worn out than the race card
SimeonNC
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Unironically socialists seem to have a way better moral compass than the GOP these days
Avalanche
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Like confusing kids on what a man and a woman is, or which one gives birth?
SimeonNC
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Why do you people always pivot to the trans issue? Trans people are a tiny fraction of the population?
And yes, "confusing kids" is less morally wrong than sexual abuse or statutory r*pe
Shaggy
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Saw a video fromma sociologist who showed unequivocally the secular are far more moral than those of faith. It was a great video
SimeonNC
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Like a person not identifying with their biological sex/assigned gender and wanting to dress differently, be referred to using different pronouns, ect. legit does not harm anyone lol. Yet conservatives are endlessly triggered by trans people simply existing
Stormsfury
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Too bad, socialism has failed 100% of the time.. which leads to mass genocide of its people. Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Castro...
To add, spare me the argument, it's never been tried correctly. The socialism experiment worked exactly as intended. One rich leader, masses poor and subservient to said rich leader
Sandbar
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If a 7 year old can talk a 30 year old into chopping his penis off they both need to go get some needed help. In the common sense world waiting to 18 to mutilate your body seems to be the wise play. It's clear that something is in the water that needs to be cleaned up
Sandbar
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We are protecting children not constricting adults. You folks can't seem to grasp that no matter how many dozens of times we tell you. It's almost as if you people can't read
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Trans people may be a tiny part of the population, but Dems (or at least the most fervent/vocal part of its neoliberal base) has made it one of the top issues in the party's agenda...
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Sandbar
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I would love to know how much $$$ they spent on just abortion ads and this transgender nonsense. Progressives live in this world where your normal, everyday person doesn't seem to exist. When they speak about doing things for "all of America" I struggle to understand just who that really is outside of the inner city utopian dumpsters they have created. It's obvious to most of us that their message was just roundly rejected but they seem to want to ignorantly stick with it.
NCSNOW
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We dont have any issue with Trans. To each his own, freedom of choice etc. Issue is when you legislate, indoctrinate everyone to subscribe and participate in your lifestyle with pronouns, celebrations in the school house, workplace etc.
Thats where the red line is drawn. Just like you don't want the 10 commandments posted, nativity scenes in front of public buildings, school prayer etc,
You be you, but don't demand I subscribe to your lifestyle. That's what changed starting in 2020 and where progressives shot themselves in the foot. Also why you just got swept out of power this past election.
Respectfully, please don't lump us real progressives (those of us who are focused on class consciousness) together with the identity politics / SJW base of the Democratic Party.
We're equally as frustrated with them, because these are wedge issues only further divide us from addressing the real/legitimate issues, which is the decline in the standard of living for lower/middle class Americans and how much harder upward mobility has gotten due to historically obscene wealth inequality.
I've been saying for months that this election was not left versus right. It's totally different paradigm now. The left and the right from a classical sense have much more in common than what's going on now between the both sides.
Sandbar
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lexxnchloe
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Thank you trump for working to get Jeffries to be the Speaker by taking 3 votes from the House. Another seat is now gone as the Dem in Oregon has defeated the incumbent rep. 4 seats down now. Looks like 218-215 will end up as the margin though 1 more dem winning a rep seat in CA and its 217-216 which is very possible. Reps simply cant get anything thru the House now making Jeffries the real Speaker.
lexxnchloe
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Its still possible dems take everything remaining and its 217-217 with Gaetz seat vacant as Waltz and Stefanik havent resigned yet. I would hope someone can tell trump his agenda is totally dead unless he rescinds the job offers to Waltz and Stefanik
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