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Presidential Election 2024

Sure didn't take the divisive fighting part to start in here again. Dang, I wish people would unify, but alrighty.

To each their own.
Divisive fighting? Nah. Imma sit back and watch the trump train wreck begin affecting everyone's lives who thought it was a good idea to re-elect him. I hope I don't have to but I'll be ready with the I told you so when those tariffs kick in
 
Sure didn't take the divisive fighting part to start in here again. Dang, I wish people would unify, but alrighty.

To each their own.
Trump has no desire to unify....he will start his term by attacking those he thinks are against him. Magas are not interested in unifying you think Trump won because he was a uniter? He won by promising ro go after the enemy within etc....Trump ran on hate and fear.
 
Big win last night for UAP disclosure. If Trump wants to become a Titan, this is his hill to plant his flag on
Biggest question going forward awaits us. Will the "D" get the message and move away from Obama politics
 
My short and quick postmortem at 6am:

I haven't gone in-depth on the numbers yet, and probably won't for a couple days, so this is mainly based on vibes and what I saw last night.

I think two things were very clear last night, minorities went more for Trump than was expected, especially Hispanics, and Harris was an awful candidate. Not Hillary awful, as her problem was being incredibly unlikable, but not having a platform other than 'orange man bad and banning abortion bad.'

People like Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg are probably kicking themselves for not being more assertive in getting themselves into the race when it was clear Biden was not the answer and Harris was elevated with no fight by anyone. I'm not saying Newsom would have done much better as he is just as far left as Harris, but at least he would have had a platform that made sense and that he could eloquently defend. What the Dems needed was a moderate, relatively youthful candidate who was actually able to use charisma and intelligence to get his policies across. That to me is Buttigieg.

Dems have some tough choices to make between now and 2028. They have presented some pretty bad candidates since Obama and they need to take a step back and wonder why that is. I suspect we'll see Newsom/Buttigieg/Shapiro going at it in 2028.

Edit: Harris also shot herself in the foot by the absolute lack of (non-softball) interviews. But it seems clear now she avoided them for a reason: she's not good at them. I cannot stress what charisma can do for a candidate, just look at Trump.
 
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This is the guy Trump is going to put in charge of our health care systems...


As nutty as the guy may sometimes be, Europe doesn't use it as much as we do and they are much healthier over there than we are here. Honestly if he can ban a lot of what Europe has in food products I'd have to give him a win because we put so much Europe considers bad in our food it's nuts and likely why we're such a fat nation eating puffed corn and corn syrup.
 
As nutty as the guy may sometimes be, Europe doesn't use it as much as we do and they are much healthier over there than we are here. Honestly if he can ban a lot of what Europe has in food products I'd have to give him a win because we put so much Europe considers bad in our food it's nuts and likely why we're such a fat nation eating puffed corn and corn syrup.
I wonder how much lobbying goes on in Europe because they pretty much own congress here.
 
So Harris with only 65 million votes so far?? Joe got 81 million. I wonder what happened to the other 16 million???🤔

I'm not so sure things were nefarious so much as tons of people were bored via being locked inside due to COVID and sent ballots automatically by default. Especially those in lower income areas who may not vote always because of health issues, transportation, etc.
 
It's actually pretty nuts to look at this and see basically the entire county go redder than 2020, even in blue states. Shows voters rejected Harris at the polls. Curious to see what this means going forward.

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