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Presidential Election 2024

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SimeonNC said:
Btw thanks @Shaggy for having my back lol
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You are a black man, how do you feel as a black man by both political parties co-opting your identity and struggles … I mean all I hear republicans saying now is “ finally black men are waking up to the truth and leaving the shackles etc” idk, seems disingenuous and icky from both sides to me. What are your thoughts ?
 
Avalanche said:
True, but then come the regulations on it. More regulations means more police, more road stops to be checked like the ones that exist for alcohol, and commercializing it.

As of right now you can smoke the purple haze out of it and no one notices or cares. There’s no traffic stops with cops checking for it, they are looking for drunk drivers, and that’ll change with the legalization of it.

Today it might be illegal, but I say it’s more legal than alcohol in reality. One can smoke all they want and go out in society or drive wherever they want. Alcohol is only legal if you drink at home. You go out to get a drink and the moment you crank up your car, it’s illegal. Right now it’s not like that with pot. Smoke all you want and drive all you want.

You make it legal you lose that privilege.
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DUI is not only for alcohol. You go out get high and drive and you can be arrested for DUI.
 
Avalanche said:
True, but then come the regulations on it. More regulations means more police, more road stops to be checked like the ones that exist for alcohol, and commercializing it.

As of right now you can smoke the purple haze out of it and no one notices or cares. There’s no traffic stops with cops checking for it, they are looking for drunk drivers, and that’ll change with the legalization of it.

Today it might be illegal, but I say it’s more legal than alcohol in reality. One can smoke all they want and go out in society or drive wherever they want. Alcohol is only legal if you drink at home. You go out to get a drink and the moment you crank up your car, it’s illegal. Right now it’s not like that with pot. Smoke all you want and drive all you want.

You make it legal you lose that privilege.
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In prohibition states if a cop smells weed in your car, it can be used as a just cause to search your car. Some legal states such as California and I think Illinois have actually passed laws saying that the smell of weed can no longer warrant a search.

Also, regulation isn't always a bad thing. If a BM source in a prohibition state sells you moldy flower or fake carts filled with potentially dangerous additives, pesticides and fillers, you're screwed. Most if not all legal states have testing standards for safety, especially for medical
 
Here are my final election predictions which will almost certainly be wrong:

Electoral Vote: Harris 276 Trump 262
Senate: R 52 D 48
House: D 219 R 216

I hope Trump can pull this out because I agree more with him on policy issues than Harris. That being said, it will be hard for Trump to overcome the high number of women who are one issue voters in this election (abortion).
 
Shaggy said:
DUI is not only for alcohol. You go out get high and drive and you can be arrested for DUI.
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True, but as of now there’s no effort. It isn’t targeted. My fear is it becomes legal and suddenly it’s getting micro-checked all the time.
 
weather bubba said:
Here are my final election predictions which will almost certainly be wrong:

Electoral Vote: Harris 276 Trump 262
Senate: R 52 D 48
House: D 219 R 216

I hope Trump can pull this out because I agree more with him on policy issues than Harris. That being said, it will be hard for Trump to overcome the high number of women who are one issue voters in this election (abortion).
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That looks about right. At least 2 years of gridlock incoming.
 
LickWx said:
You are a black man, how do you feel as a black man by both political parties co-opting your identity and struggles … I mean all I hear republicans saying now is “ finally black men are waking up to the truth and leaving the shackles etc” idk, seems disingenuous and icky from both sides to me. What are your thoughts ?
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It sucks, it all sucks. Like both Obama's speech to black men regarding Kamala were completely condescending. Meanwhile, Trump and the MAGA movement whether by accident or design(I'm gonna be charitable and assume by accident) really seems to attract the far-right types who constantly spout explicit or implicit anti-black racist rhetoric.

My vote for Kamala was pretty much me choosing to be shot in the foot rather than being shot in the chest so to speak, in my own personal view. I also have more faith in a Dem administration/Dem led Congress to enact policies I support than a GOP admin/congress
 
LickWx said:
You are a black man, how do you feel as a black man by both political parties co-opting your identity and struggles … I mean all I hear republicans saying now is “ finally black men are waking up to the truth and leaving the shackles etc” idk, seems disingenuous and icky from both sides to me. What are your thoughts ?
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Where do you go to hear this stuff?
 
weather bubba said:
That will give the Republicans a 52 to 48 majority in the Senate. Brown has held a small lead in his race up until recently. Ohio is a solidly Republican state now and with a presidential race this year I think that will push Moreno across the finish line in first place.
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Don't forget, the Senate seats in PA and WI are still in play too if in fact Trump's support has been understated.

EDIT: AZ too...
 
weather bubba said:
https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/our-final-2024-ratings/

Wow, this political website has read my mind as far as the election results other than giving the Republicans one more house seat!
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Sabato is a far leftist. Him having it this close is good news for Trump. Here is his 2016 prediction



Despite some wobbles along the way, we’ve favored Hillary Clinton as the 45th president of the United States ever since we did our first handicapping of the Clinton vs. Donald Trump matchup back in late March. The edge we had for her back then has eroded a little bit at the end — we had her as high as 352 electoral votes, and in the final tally we have her down to 322, with 216 for Trump. If this is how it turns out, Trump will fare 10 electoral votes better than Mitt Romney, and Clinton will do 10 electoral votes worse than Barack Obama in 2012 — 11 or 12 if rogue Washington electors follow through on their threat to refuse to vote for Clinton (but we can’t assume that at this time).
 
SimeonNC said:
It sucks, it all sucks. Like both Obama's speech to black men regarding Kamala were completely condescending. Meanwhile, Trump and the MAGA movement whether by accident or design(I'm gonna be charitable and assume by accident) really seems to attract the far-right types who constantly spout explicit or implicit anti-black racist rhetoric.

My vote for Kamala was pretty much me choosing to be shot in the foot rather than being shot in the chest so to speak, in my own personal view. I also have more faith in a Dem administration/Dem led Congress to enact policies I support than a GOP admin/congress
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Thank you for sharing and I’m sorry so many people seem to believe they know what’s best for you more than you, or that you are incapable of thinking for your own self and if you don’t think like the rest that you must not be able to think for yourself… I’m sorry bro, it’s infuriating
 
SimeonNC said:
Do you really think that Trump, a billionaire from a wealthy family, someone who has had ties to Epstein and someone who has been involved in mainstream celebrity culture for decades isn't a part of some conspiracy but Kamala and Biden are?
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Well, Kamala has ties to Diddy. Busted
 
🚨 Pollster in NY who has been right 300 out of the last 301 presidential elections coming in hot for Trump. Shows Trump over Harris 53/47. 💥 ⚠️ 🚨
 
It's going to be Trump in a landslide, like I've been saying for weeks. The unlimited dead babies, men beating up women, unabated illegal immigration, and wars all over the place are all just going to have to take a back seat for a few years. Sorry, my lefty compatriots.
 
Sandbar said:
The time for polls is over. The numbers coming back from early voting are more telling at this point. If they won't turn out early why would they tomorrow?
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I mean we are comparing early voting this year to early voting during a world wide pandemic. I think it’s safe to say that early voting this year will not be as prominent as it was in 2020. But who turns out on Election Day who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
What a joke
 

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SimeonNC said:
It sucks, it all sucks. Like both Obama's speech to black men regarding Kamala were completely condescending. Meanwhile, Trump and the MAGA movement whether by accident or design(I'm gonna be charitable and assume by accident) really seems to attract the far-right types who constantly spout explicit or implicit anti-black racist rhetoric.

My vote for Kamala was pretty much me choosing to be shot in the foot rather than being shot in the chest so to speak, in my own personal view. I also have more faith in a Dem administration/Dem led Congress to enact policies I support than a GOP admin/congress
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So choosing to have a victim mentality when you aren’t really a victim….typical dem
 
Another poster inadvertently brought up a salient pont.

Besides this election being a Trump referendum, it's also an Obama referendum.

If he couldn't even work his magic to get Harris across the finish line, the Dem donors will likely start to cast him and Michelle away like they've done with the Clintons.
 
Feel really good with my $1,100 bet for Harris. My map has her holding Georgia and is very similar to how Biden beat Trump. Kinda sad you have someone running who lost to Biden. Factor in the black card you better believe Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta and Macon are gonna turnout even bigger. I’m giving North Carolina to Trump but it won’t even matter.
 
Downeastnc said:
Trump will declare himself winner around 7pm tomorrow night...when he ends up losing he will point to all these BS polls etc showing how he was up big in all these states and how fraud had to happen etc. Its baked in there is no scenario where Trump concedes or admits he lost.....
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This 100% is exactly how it will play out.
 
Breaking News: ---- Van Dyke endorses Harris. I didn’t even know he was still alive guess he is
 
I seriously cannot understand how a person can support Kamala. She is our current vice president, and every speech at her rallies are about change and how they can fix the country. We have had a Democrat president 12 of the last 16 years. The change is not Kamala Harris, she is the same sell out politician as the rest of them. The Change is Trump. Y’all stay safe out there during this time, Trump 2024.
 
RoddyPiper said:
Some of yall dems looking desperately foolish right now…..every piece of credible evidence is SCREAMING Trump in a landslide, and here yall are, quoting fake social media profiles of people nobody even knows….its sad really.
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I don’t think Trump wins. Im not even sure it will be as close as some say. It won’t be a blow out but it will be fairly clear she won. Trump won’t accept the results and will blame everyone but himself and wonder how anyone wouldn’t vote for a man convicted of tax fraud, sexual assault, close ties to Jeffery Epstein and brags about stripping federal rights for women to get an abortion. I can’t see why people wouldn’t like that
 
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