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Presidential Election 2024

Are you really going to argue that 8 years of Obama spending should count the same as 4 years of Trump spending? Like really?
The thing is I don’t think Trump should even be blamed in a sense for bad policy on his goverment spending during the pandemic. I think it was mostly necessary although a lot of it was spent poorly and such, and again, not his fault. I really think he did what he had to do at the time to keep things afloat.
 
Excellent point and well thought out argument. Just like every rebuttal to what I’ve said. The clown emojis and thumb downs have been excellent points and hard to argue against but I’m doing my best. You guys are really giving me a tough time backing up my point of view with your amazing counter arguments…
offended by emojis. We know who them or they voted for.
 
You said:

"Trump increased the national debt more than any president in history… by a WIDE margin."

^^^And that was a bold face lie. Just own up to the mistake...
I’ll concede that that I should have been more clear if you really want to okay gotcha but it’s insane to think that 4 years of Trump is comparable in total dollar amounts to 8 years of Obama. Like Jesus man you know better
 
The thing is I don’t think Trump should even be blamed in a sense for bad policy on his goverment spending during the pandemic. I think it was mostly necessary although a lot of it was spent poorly and such, and again, not his fault. I really think he did what he had to do at the time to keep things afloat.
I didn't support it. It wasn’t allocated where I thought it should’ve gone anyway.
 
Excellent point and well thought out argument. Just like every rebuttal to what I’ve said. The clown emojis and thumb downs have been excellent points and hard to argue against but I’m doing my best. You guys are really giving me a tough time backing up my point of view with your amazing counter arguments…
Nobody is trying to argue with ignorant views on politics on a weather forum
 
You guys give it your best shot at defending the 2 weakest candidates I have ever seen run in a POTUS election in my long lifetime (well I'll say 2020 was just as bad). The bar has been set so low in this country, people actually are arguing over the choice between an old crazy clown and a woman who is a legit airhead. Excellence in leadership and integrity are now relics on the American political front. Hopefully in 4 years, the US can hit the reset button with legit qualified candidates and I will get mark a ballot somewhere besides where it says "Write in your candidate's name here"....
 
You guys give it your best shot at defending the 2 weakest candidates I have ever seen run in a POTUS election in my long lifetime (well I'll say 2020 was just as bad). The bar has been set so low in this country, people actually are arguing over the choice between an old crazy clown and a woman who is a legit airhead. Excellence in leadership and integrity are now relics on the American political front. Hopefully in 4 years, the US can hit the reset button with legit qualified candidates and I will get mark a ballot somewhere besides where it say "Write in your candidate's name here"....

The only remote chance of that happening is if Kamala loses...
 
You said:

"Trump increased the national debt more than any president in history… by a WIDE margin."

^^^And that was a bold face lie. Just own up to the mistake...
You are right, it would be a lie to say that Trump increased the national debt the most of any president for his entire term. I neglected important context. Trump increased the debt more than any president in history for his first term. The fact that he is second over-all is still incredible when he didn’t in half the time as most anyone else. Again, I don’t even blame him. The pandemic was an anomaly and spending had to happen. In caused massive inflation because of it. The whole world did the same thing and the same thing happened. I don’t blame him. But to blame Biden and Harris for it is asinine.
 
You’re always waiting on someone else to prove their opposing views….but you haven’t provided this thread with anything but biased ramblings, and some comedy that can be found in your ignorance.
I posted Harris’s plan and trumps and gave reasons why I think hers is better and his sucks. That’s how you debate. And provided links to why and where the information is coming from. Someone else kindly referenced an inflationary bill of unprecedented tariffs during the Great Depression that was considered the straw that broke the camels back. That I was looking for. What more do you want? I could thumbs down other peoples posts if that’s helps 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I didn't support it. It wasn’t allocated where I thought it should’ve gone anyway.
Maybe. They didn’t have a lot of time to get it used in the best way it should have. I hate defending the Trump admin but I’m not going to pretend to think everything he or his administration did or tried to do is garbage. I feel like at least that was done with good intentions and done hastily when it needed to be done. It may sound crazy but I’ve been republican most of my life. I would vote for Nikki Haley over Biden if that was the ticket. Trumps is just trash.
 
If you decide to apply tariffs to EVERYTHING coming out of China you are going to see remarkable inflation. Just look it up don’t trust my words. Tariffs make sense in a lot of ways. But not as a source of revenue and not on things that we do not have the infrastructure in place to already sell and make home grown.
Do you know what the US has to sell. And how do you determine what it should be sold for?
 
you just refuse to accept the results of your conversation.
I see what you did there and that’s pretty clever 🤣. But no one’s said why Biden and/or Harris are bad for the things they are complaining about while I’m telling you why I think Trump is. It’s just that housing is high while they are president…okay. What did they do to cause that? If you have a reason I want to be informed. Maybe they did cause that and I just don’t know.
 
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