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Presidential Election 2024

It would be the ultimate irony if the Iowa rep caucus voters gave us Trump who loses in a landslide. I still think Trump has a chance but we could have had DeSantis who has delivered on every conservative issue and is fighting like hell to stop Amendments 3 and 4 in FLA as we speak. If Trump does lose what happens next? Who does the party turn to? A Trump grifter like Vivek or a conservative like DeSantis?
 
lexxnchloe said:
It would be the ultimate irony if the Iowa rep caucus voters gave us Trump who loses in a landslide. I still think Trump has a chance but we could have had DeSantis who has delivered on every conservative issue and is fighting like hell to stop Amendments 3 and 4 in FLA as we speak. If Trump does lose what happens next? Who does the party turn to? A Trump grifter like Vivek or a conservative like DeSantis?
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Maybe Nikki Haley. It may not matter who they turn to though if Harris wins and the Democrats get both houses of Congress. If that happens it may be a long time, if ever, for the Republicans to get back in the White House. It would depend on if they can get rid of the filibuster if they do get the White House and all of Congress. If they do that, they will pack the court and then all bets are off. At that point they bring in 2 new Democratic states, make abortion legal everywhere right up to birth, and who knows what else.
 
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AtlasIntel leans a bit right so its really close right now. That Iowa poll seems looney.
 
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NorthDFWwx said:
And another one...

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These one-issue voters. Obviously white supremacy matters to them, and the left offers them more hope than Republicans. Sad. Maybe the Republicans will get on board someday soon. Republicans can’t afford to lose votes just because they don’t support race supremacy. Got to appeal to these people on some other issue.
 
Avalanche said:
These one-issue voters. Obviously white supremacy matters to them, and the left offers them more hope than Republicans. Sad. Maybe the Republicans will get on board someday soon. Republicans can’t afford to lose votes just because they don’t support race supremacy. Got to appeal to these people on some other issue.
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Another big win for the democrats
 
If all this is close to right then Trump loses, this means the women vote has gone against him in a big way and he will end up losing WI/PA/NC etc...Seltzer has never been off by more than 5 pts so assuming this is the case now then that means Iowa is +2 Trump...I personally think the women vote has gone against him in a big way and its under polled just like it was in 2020.



 
lexxnchloe said:
It would be the ultimate irony if the Iowa rep caucus voters gave us Trump who loses in a landslide. I still think Trump has a chance but we could have had DeSantis who has delivered on every conservative issue and is fighting like hell to stop Amendments 3 and 4 in FLA as we speak. If Trump does lose what happens next? Who does the party turn to? A Trump grifter like Vivek or a conservative like DeSantis?
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I would support both of them.
 
Downeastnc said:
If all this is close to right then Trump loses, this means the women vote has gone against him in a big way and he will end up losing WI/PA/NC etc...Seltzer has never been off by more than 5 pts so assuming this is the case now then that means Iowa is +2 Trump...I personally think the women vote has gone against him in a big way and its under polled just like it was in 2020.



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Now talk about how NYT / Siena also has Trump winning MI...
 
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