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Presidential Election 2024

Some interesting context behind that Ann Selzer poll here:




I find the result hard to believe myself, but you're saying that either A: she's lost a step bigly, or B: she's found a shift to the left in the rust belt even if she missed by maybe 7-8 on Trump's final percentage.

The Emerson poll as well here basically suggests a bang on similar case to 2020.

"slithers off"

Slithers off 😄😄
 
They (Selzer) are a spectacularly awful pollster...
Interesting because she's a world-renowned pollster, calling for the broader swings to Trump in 2016 and 2020. But, now she's awful? Ok.


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Interesting because she's a world-renowned pollster, calling for the broader swings to Trump in 2016 and 2020. But, now she's awful? Ok.


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Traditionally she has been a good pollster. But.. I would expect Iowa and Ohio to swing together and Ohio is definitely not swinging that same direction.
 
Traditionally she has been a good pollster. But.. I would expect Iowa and Ohio to swing together and Ohio is definitely not swinging that same direction.
Agree. Ohio and Iowa will both go Trump, likely by a comfortable margin. But this poll, combined with some others out of Kansas and Ohio do show the trouble Republicans face due to women voters. The abortion issue is real. I'm hoping for a Kamala win on Tuesday but wouldn't be surprised in a landslide either direction (310+ in the electoral college).
 
Agree. Ohio and Iowa will both go Trump, likely by a comfortable margin. But this poll, combined with some others out of Kansas and Ohio do show the trouble Republicans face due to women voters. The abortion issue is real. I'm hoping for a Kamala win on Tuesday but wouldn't be surprised in a landslide either direction (310+ in the electoral college).
I think it is more likely than not that it is an "electoral landslide" one way or the other. The margins are so close in all the swing states.
 
They (Selzer) are a spectacularly awful pollster...
Actually the most she has missed by was 5 points 2018 Iowa gov race.
2022 Senate: R+12 (R+12)
2020 President: R+7 (R+8)
2020 Senate: R+4 (R+7)
2018 Governor: D+2 (R+3)
2016 President: R+7 (R+9)
2014 Senate: R+7 (R+8)
2012 President: D+5 (D+6)
 
I am hoping for a split Congress no matter who wins, especially Trump. Trump basically wants to do away with all govt and would apparently put Elon Musk, Robert Kennedy Jr., and worst of all Ron Paul into the cabinet. Say so long to food safety, clean air, and clean water among many other things. The FBI, NWS, ATF, and FDA among many other things would be gone. He could not do much of this without all of Congress.

Harris wants to go too far the other way so I'm hoping a Republican Senate could reign her in some if she wins.
 
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