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Presidential Election 2024

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Saw a report that Obeyme speaking at a Democracy forum stated that it Is Republicans that are responsible for weaponising the just us system and rigging elections. In a sense he is correct. I have outlined here multiple times how both he and Hold Em took what New World Order W and republicans put forth with the Patriot Act and weaponised it against us the American people. Until that gets unraveled, both wings of the bad bird have great power over us.
 
Skippy The Brat said:
So the Capital Police officer who shot Ashley Babbitt is threatening DemoncRATs that he will go public if he doesn’t get a WOAT pardon. Why would you need to threaten that if you did nothing wrong?
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The shtick is up. Everybody knows that a whole bunch of deliberately shady things have been going on across many venues - Hunter Biden/the Biden family, Covid, J6, you name it. You don't blanket pardon people for not committing crimes 🤣

I mean, this is elementary school-level deduction. All this mess is going to get blown wide open soon. It's the primary reason Trump almost died. Twice.
 
Rain Cold said:
The shtick is up. Everybody knows that a whole bunch of deliberately shady things have been going on across many venues - Hunter Biden/the Biden family, Covid, J6, you name it. You don't blanket pardon people for not committing crimes 🤣

I mean, this is elementary school-level deduction. All this mess is going to get blown wide open soon. It's the primary reason Trump almost died. Twice.
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There are many things that are going to change after January 20
 
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This may be how they keep Trump out. If this stuff really gets out all bets are off.
 
Shaggy said:
Because trump is looking to be a dictator on day one?
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Really? This is your response? The DemoncRAT patented sheeople dictator response? Has nothing to do with that Shagg. It does have eveything to do with if you have done nothing wrong then why press for a pardon? You are gonna have to do better than this.
 
I like this plan...how stupid do you have to be to take a federal meeting from a bubble bath.

 
Skippy The Brat said:
Really? This is your response? The DemoncRAT patented sheeople dictator response? Has nothing to do with that Shagg. It does have eveything to do with if you have done nothing wrong then why press for a pardon? You are gonna have to do better than this.
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Why did trump and all his kids plead the 5th hundreds and hundreds of times if they haven't done anything wrong?
 
Shaggy said:
Why did trump and all his kids plead the 5th hundreds and hundreds of times if they haven't done anything wrong?
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It is their constitutional right to do so and you know this. Demoncrats have done this as well and you know it. If I were in their shoes and the law fare that was being thrown at me, I would plead the 5th and so would you if you were in that situation. Heck, members of WOATs own cabinet ignored supeonas and did not go to jail while members of team Trump went to jail for the same thing. Once again you are having trouble with your hunting dogs. They don't hunt and neither do your aruguments here.

Update: Shaggy I gave you a clown emoji for your response but at least I had the guts to also respond. No response? I thought so.
 
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Skippy The Brat said:
It is their constitutional right to do so and you know this. Demoncrats have done this as well and you know it. If I were in their shoes and the law fare that was being thrown at me, I would plead the 5th and so would you if you were in that situation. Heck, members of WOATs own cabinet ignored supeonas and did not go to jail while members of team Trump went to jail for the same thing. Once again you are having trouble with your hunting dogs. They don't hunt and neither do your aruguments here.

Update: Shaggy I gave you a clown emoji for your response but at least I had the guts to also respond. No response? I thought so.
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I was merely mocking you guys for the "if you have nothing to hide" stuff. The reason I brought up trumps 5th use was because he was on record when other people took the 5th saying they shouldn't unless they have something to hide.
 
Shaggy said:
I was merely mocking you guys for the "if you have nothing to hide" stuff. The reason I brought up trumps 5th use was because he was on record when other people took the 5th saying they shouldn't unless they have something to hide.
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Oh, I see—so you're just here to dish out mockery like it's a public service announcement? Fair enough.
 
Shaggy said:
When's it's clear and blatant double standards then yup I'm gonna dish out some mockery
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Ah, yes, the noble art of mockery—the universal cure for double standards. Truly, history’s most effective conflict resolution tool. Who needs logic or discussion when sarcasm is on the menu, right? Ok everyone, the forum word for today is mockery. Shaggy has decried that it should be so.
 
Skippy The Brat said:
Ah, yes, the noble art of mockery—the universal cure for double standards. Truly, history’s most effective conflict resolution tool. Who needs logic or discussion when sarcasm is on the menu, right? Ok everyone, the forum word for today is mockery. Shaggy has decried that it should be so.
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Logic and discussion? So you are mad today that people are talking about Biden giving shiff and few others blanket pardons?
 
Shaggy said:
Logic and discussion? So you are mad today that people are talking about Biden giving shiff and few others blanket pardons?
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I said nothing about Shiffty and others getting pardons today. I only spoke to the Capitol Police officer requesting a blanket pardon and posed the question: if you have not done anything wrong why do you need a pardon? Same applies to Shiffty and others you are referring to here. If they have done nothing wrong why do they need a pre-emptive blanket pardon? Explain that to me Shaggy without the defer and deflect mockery tactic you have been utilizing today.
 
Skippy The Brat said:
I said nothing about Shiffty and others getting pardons today. I only spoke to the Capitol Police officer requesting a blanket pardon and posed the question: if you have not done anything wrong why do you need a pardon? Same applies to Shiffty and others you are referring to here. If they have done nothing wrong why do they need a pre-emptive blanket pardon? Explain that to me Shaggy without the defer and deflect mockery tactic you have been utilizing today.
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Because trumps saying he is going after them and they are the enemy of the people?

Why did Marjorie Taylor Green float the idea back at the end of the 1st term for trump if everything she did leading up to J6th was legal?
 
Shaggy said:
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Ok I am sure you read the whole article but just in case you did not let me point out the key paragraph in the article for you:

"The email request says it all. There was a concern Democrats would abuse the judicial system by prosecuting and jailing Republicans who acted pursuant to their Constitutional or statutory duties under 3 USC 15,” Brooks said in a statement. “Fortunately, with time passage, more rational forces took over and no one was persecuted for performing their lawful duties, which means a pardon was unnecessary after all"

Overall this statement reflects the perception of misues of judicial power of WOAT and his DOJ heading into what we now know was the the J6 Hearing fiasco. Many in Congress and outside of Congress felt that there would be a misuse of Judicial Power by the DemoncRATs heading into, during and post J6 hearings. Which we now know was the case in some cases so this was a rational fear. We also know that Patrick Byrne, who was present at several of these meetings 12/21 and forward, testified behind closed doors as to the nature of these meetings and suddenly persecution for executing lawful duties went by the wayside and they had to go after Orange Bad Man primarilly on Docs Charges and not J6. Patrick Byrne threatened to go very public if he was not allowed to testify and suddenly there was a closed door J6 hearing. Having said all this, I am sure there is fear among the DemoncRATs and those associated with them. But let me say this, WOAT and his administration set the pursecutorial precedent here and the DemoncRATS know it. That is why they are scared because they know what goes around comes around.
 
Skippy The Brat said:
Ok I am sure you read the whole article but just in case you did not let me point out the key paragraph in the article for you:

"The email request says it all. There was a concern Democrats would abuse the judicial system by prosecuting and jailing Republicans who acted pursuant to their Constitutional or statutory duties under 3 USC 15,” Brooks said in a statement. “Fortunately, with time passage, more rational forces took over and no one was persecuted for performing their lawful duties, which means a pardon was unnecessary after all"

Overall this statement reflects the perception of misues of judicial power of WOAT and his DOJ heading into what we now know was the the J6 Hearing fiasco. Many in Congress and outside of Congress felt that there would be a misuse of Judicial Power by the DemoncRATs heading into, during and post J6 hearings. Which we now know was the case in some cases so this was a rational fear. We also know that Patrick Byrne, who was present at several of these meetings 12/21 and forward, testified behind closed doors as to the nature of these meetings and suddenly persecution for executing lawful duties went by the wayside and they had to go after Orange Bad Man primarilly on Docs Charges and not J6. Patrick Byrne threatened to go very public if he was not allowed to testify and suddenly there was a closed door J6 hearing. Having said all this, I am sure there is fear among the DemoncRATs and those associated with them. But let me say this, WOAT and his administration set the pursecutorial precedent here and the DemoncRATS know it. That is why they are scared because they know what goes around comes around.
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So was it okay for them to ask for blanket pardons out of fear the democrats were gonna abuse the judicial system?
 
Shaggy said:
So was it okay for them to ask for blanket pardons out of fear the democrats were gonna abuse the judicial system?
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I did not say that. What I said was that post J6 and WOAT DOJ law fare we now know that in some cases it was a rational fear. That is what I said. I also said that had it not been for the closed door Patrick Byrne testimony you probably would have seen more unwarranted prosecutorial actions by the WOAT admin and DemoncRATS. All of a sudden after that testimony some of the high ranking officials listed in that article were off the hook. Why is that? Suddenly persecution for executing congressional lawful duties went by the wayside. That is what I said. You are inferring I said the above which I did not.
 
Skippy The Brat said:
I did not say that. What I said was that post J6 and WOAT DOJ law fare we now know that in some cases it was a rational fear. That is what I said. I also said that had it not been for the closed door Patrick Byrne testimony you probably would have seen more unwarranted prosecutorial actions by the WOAT admin and DemoncRATS. All of a sudden after that testimony some of the high ranking officials listed in that article were off the hook. Why is that? Suddenly persecution for executing congressional lawful duties went by the wayside. That is what I said. You are inferring I said the above which I did not.
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With trumps rhetoric why is it not a rational.fear now for those he has targeted and that are being considered for the pardons?
 
Shaggy said:
With trumps rhetoric why is it not a rational.fear now for those he has targeted and that are being considered for the pardons?
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You are missing the point as usual Shaggy. If the folks you mention towed the line with respect to carrying out congressional duties they should not have any fear and do not need a blanket pardon. The difference here is that persecutorial actions were actually happening with WOAT admin and Dems well prior to J6 and it took the threat of Byrne going very public to get them off the hook otherwise the persecutorial actions against those Repubs would have continued. So to sum it up unless they did something wrong they don't need a pre-emptive blanket pardon. Oh and by the way, I don't agree with pre-emptive blanket pardons no matter which side is doing it.
 
Shaggy said:
Because trump is looking to be a dictator on day one?
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FFS, the absolute audacity and absurdity of that MSNBC claim is the very theme why that network is an absolute laughing stock.

The quote refers to Trump's planned executive orders to undo Biden's executive orders. Border wall to continue, likely restarting the Keystone, and many other detrimental Biden Executive orders gone.
 
Stormsfury said:
FFS, the absolute audacity and absurdity of that MSNBC claim is the very theme why that network is an absolute laughing stock.

The quote refers to Trump's planned executive orders to undo Biden's executive orders. Border wall to continue, likely restarting the Keystone, and many other detrimental Biden Executive orders gone.
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Yep. And the constant false narrative, the lies, the nonstop witch hunts and throw in some over the top wokeness with failed policies, instant recipe for Dem failure and Trump victory. But some people just don't get it, they hate him that much and nothing else matters. Kudos to you for keeping up the debate, it can be exhausting Lol
 
Read above Dems this is why you lost. This is why MSNBC lost. Keep making up garbage and then spewing it, it's working out great for you, The rest of America has seen it for what it is.

Happy to see the Bills emerging in many states banning Minors from receiving transgender surgery or hormone therapy. I really hope 2025 is the year this gets exposed nationwide for the disgusting experiment that it is. Be a weirdo adult I guess if you want(even Trans adults should not receive federal protections), but leave children out of it.
 
Thor said:
Read above Dems this is why you lost. This is why MSNBC lost. Keep making up garbage and then spewing it, it's working out great for you, The rest of America has seen it for what it is.

Happy to see the Bills emerging in many states banning Minors from receiving transgender surgery or hormone therapy. I really hope 2025 is the year this gets exposed nationwide for the disgusting experiment that it is. Be a weirdo adult I guess if you want(even Trans adults should not receive federal protections), but leave children out of it.
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I will never understand this weird fixation liberals have on kids being able to change genders, see drag queens, and identify as animals.
 
Avalanche said:
I will never understand this weird fixation liberals have on kids being able to change genders, see drag queens, and identify as animals.
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Kids have been doing this for eternity, it's called PLAYING. The "issue" is that their idiotic parents these days take it seriously and start lopping off body parts
 
Sandbar said:
Kids have been doing this for eternity, it's called PLAYING. The "issue" is that their idiotic parents these days take it seriously and start lopping off body parts
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Eh, I don’t know. When I was a kid none of that stuff was appealing to me. My idea of playing was jumping ramps on bikes or shooting basketball. Same for all my friends and kids I knew. None of them wanted to be opposite sex, or thought of themselves as animals.

However I do agree parents cater to kids demands and if a kid wanted that stuff their parents would accommodate for sure
 
Skippy The Brat said:
I have not seen that reported anywhere else yet but was out of pocket last night. If true Obeyme and Killary’s ISIS would be back in business.
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Watch what is going on in Syria very carefully. This plays an enormous role in all of this going on. Syria is a very central figure that I can't go into any further detail on for various reasons but all eyes should be on it
 
Avalanche said:
Eh, I don’t know. When I was a kid none of that stuff was appealing to me. My idea of playing was jumping ramps on bikes or shooting basketball. Same for all my friends and kids I knew. None of them wanted to be opposite sex, or thought of themselves as animals.

However I do agree parents cater to kids demands and if a kid wanted that stuff their parents would accommodate for sure
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My point being it's not unusual for children to explore things including their gender, that's how they learn about the world. As you well know by now I believe in past lives and early on in childhood is when people are most likely to regain these memories before their brains become gobbled up by social engineering and the chemicals and poison we put in our bodies. There is a logical explanation why children show this behavior and in my opinion only, this is why. We unfortunately call it mental illness because we don't understand what is going on. Still their parents should educate themselves enough to understand why before doing something ignorant that could ruin a child's life
 
The media and the country lost their minds over a Chinese weather balloon a year ago. The most incredible event in our lifetime is likely happening in our skies and it's like it isn't even happening.
 
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