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Presidential Election 2024

Downeastnc said:
End racism is partisan hmmmm interesting that you imply a conservative would never wear a hat like that lol.
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So is the latter. The fact that slogans like “end racism” are allowed to be worn in leagues that are majority minority screams incompetence of the highest magnitude, including those who buy it.
 
Downeastnc said:
Oh I agree....I also think this mindset is more ingrained in parts of our culture that feel emboldened by Trumps win and feel that his election was a statement on women's rights etc.
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Maybe y'all shouldn't have used so much capital the last 8 years on stuff that was fake and people might listen to your side.
 
Downeastnc said:
Oh I agree....I also think this mindset is more ingrained in parts of our culture that feel emboldened by Trumps win and feel that his election was a statement on women's rights etc.
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You mean like the way segments of our culture were emboldened by the 8 years of Obeyme and the 4 abysmal years of WOAT? The way segements of the culture many don't agree with crammed down our throats their beliefs and told us we were threats to democracy if we did not believe that way. Is that what you mean?
 
I think if there's one thing we can agree on is that both sides have some delusional nutjobs, but we as sane America should be responsible and say they do not represent our nation, our parties, or our goals, and live by it. The left went too far on social issues it lead to their demise in elections. However, to not end up the same way, the right must denounce these people before people in general start to believe they're the standard for the right. Freedom of speech is important but if you got nutcases running around in your party don't allow their delusional views to become what you align with by letting them speak louder.
 
ForsythSnow said:
I think if there's one thing we can agree on is that both sides have some delusional nutjobs, but we as sane America should be responsible and say they do not represent our nation, our parties, or our goals, and live by it. The left went too far on social issues it lead to their demise in elections. However, to not end up the same way, the right must denounce these people before people in general start to believe they're the standard for the right. Freedom of speech is important but if you got nutcases running around in your party don't allow their delusional views to become what you align with by letting them speak louder.
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This is a little bit of a false equivalency. On one side, you have regular people AS WELL AS many key community, industrial and political leaders calling the general public on the other side racists, homophobes, misogynists, deplorable, low IQ garbage.

Meanwhile, the other side has does have some people who fit the descriptions above. But they are far and away the minority, and they are routinely condemned by their own side.

The media and the left would have you believe that republican leadership and Trump never ever ever condemn abhorrent behavior. But they do. I can find clip after clip of it.

I agree that such behavior should not be supported, but the expectation that it has to be called out every single time it shows up on Twitter is a bit absurd. Surely, we can all generally agree that that behavior is not representative of what we should be about as a nation.

Personally, I'm tired of people acting like the right somehow has a unique responsibility to call out every racist that makes a comment, and if they don't, then it MUST mean they just implicitly support it. It's ridiculous and is a big part of why the left lost in a landslide.
 
Rain Cold said:
This is a little bit of a false equivalency. On one side, you have regular people AS WELL AS many key community, industrial and political leaders calling the general public on the other side racists, homophobes, misogynists, deplorable, low IQ garbage.

Meanwhile, the other side has does have some people who fit the descriptions above. But they are far and away the minority, and they are routinely condemned by their own side.

The media and the left would have you believe that republican leadership and Trump never ever ever condemn abhorrent behavior. But they do. I can find clip after clip of it.

I agree that such behavior should not be supported, but the expectation that it has to be called out every single time it shows up on Twitter is a bit absurd. Surely, we can all generally agree that that behavior is not representative of what we should be about as a nation.

Personally, I'm tired of people acting like the right somehow has a unique responsibility to call out every racist that makes a comment, and if they don't, then it MUST mean they just implicitly support it. It's ridiculous and is a big part of why the left lost in a landslide.
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America was ready for a change.
 
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