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snowlover91 said:
But the question is still unanswered, what evidence is there that Obama and his officials may have done something illegal, if any? I want to see discussion of the evidence and facts surrounding the Obama situation, hard evidence for or against it happening.
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I would think that after years of investigating this if there was something there other than innuendos and pipe dreams that we would have seen them hammer by now if they could. This is all a setup by Trump to try and build up his base, they have had numerous investigations into this and still nothing.....

Again if Trump and Barr really had anything concrete here there wouldn't be stupid tweets or vague implications....
 
Downeastnc said:
I would think that after years of investigating this if there was something there other than innuendos and pipe dreams that we would have seen them hammer by now if they could. This is all a setup by Trump to try and build up his base, they have had numerous investigations into this and still nothing.....

Again if Trump and Barr really had anything concrete here there wouldn't be stupid tweets or vague implications....
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No everything is not a set up. Some have been waiting on this corruption to come to light. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it untrue.
 
Downeastnc said:
I would think that after years of investigating this if there was something there other than innuendos and pipe dreams that we would have seen them hammer by now if they could. This is all a setup by Trump to try and build up his base, they have had numerous investigations into this and still nothing.....

Again if Trump and Barr really had anything concrete here there wouldn't be stupid tweets or vague implications....
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Guess we will have to wait and see if any hard evidence comes out or not on this.
 
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snowlover91 said:
Lets wait and see if any hard evidence comes out or not on this.
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There have been several investigations into this already, first Huber, then Horowitz now Durham heck they have been investigating this longer than Muller investigated Trump and the Trumpers were in a tizzy over how long that was going on for, I guess they don't mind spending taxpayers dollars on investigations into Obama just Trump.

Huber and Horowitz were largely bust for the get Obama/Comey crowd....Durham will be the same, they will try to make it sound terrible but in the end nothing will come of it mostly because Trump and his camp did in fact get in touch with and attempt to use the Russians to further Trump's chances to be president.
 
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You'll Still Be Homeschooling Your Kids This Fall, Dr. Fauci Says — Best Life

Dr. Anthony Fauci revealed Tuesday morning that schools reopening in the fall "would be a bit of a bridge too far," in a Senate Committee hearing.
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This is absolute bs. No reason kids don’t go to school. Trump needs to dump his arse. The death rate of kids is almost 0%. The average death rate is 80-82! Isolate the 80-82. This is so freaking ridiculous. What if this virus goes on for 2 more years? No schools or sports or anything for 2 years? Those that are scared then let them stay home and not come out. No one is forcing them. No reason to in prison everyone else because of fear of some. Kids need interaction.
 
Downeastnc said:
There have been several investigations into this already, first Huber, then Horowitz now Durham heck they have been investigating this longer than Muller investigated Trump and the Trumpers were in tizzy in how long that was going on for, I guess they don't mind spending taxpayers dollars on investigations into Obama just Trump.

Huber and Horowitz were largely bust for the get Obama/Comey crowd....Durham will be the same, they will try to make it sound terrible but in the end nothing will come of it mostly because Trump and his camp did in fact get in touch with and attempt to use the Russians to further Trump's chances to be president.
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I’m not referring to the past investigations, I’m referring to the current allegations and document leaks indicating Obama and his admin were doing some spying on Trump and his campaign. We will have to wait and see what comes of it in the next few weeks to find out.
 
Downeastnc said:
There have been several investigations into this already, first Huber, then Horowitz now Durham heck they have been investigating this longer than Muller investigated Trump and the Trumpers were in tizzy in how long that was going on for, I guess they don't mind spending taxpayers dollars on investigations into Obama just Trump.

Huber and Horowitz were largely bust for the get Obama/Comey crowd....Durham will be the same, they will try to make it sound terrible but in the end nothing will come of it mostly because Trump and his camp did in fact get in touch with and attempt to use the Russians to further Trump's chances to be president.
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This is not just about that. This has to do with Flynn and Obama and his staff setting up Flynn and Trump. This was treason. We’re just getting started on the meetings Obama had with Biden and Rice. All this Russian crap was instigated by Obama to ruin Trumps chances of winning. Let’s just see what comes out. This is just starting all the dirty deeds Obama did.
 
snowlover91 said:
I’m not referring to the past investigations, I’m referring to the current allegations and document leaks indicating Obama and his admin were doing some spying on Trump and his campaign. We will have to wait and see what comes of it in the next few weeks to find out.
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Exactly the proof is now coming out he was spying on Trump. That is treason.
 
From a pure health perspective, keeping schools locked down indefinitely probably is the right call. But health isn’t the only factor at play here. We also have to factor in society, economics, learning, etc.

If we keep schools closed into the fall, we’re looking at basically throwing away a year of learning for today’s schoolchildren. That’s a pretty extreme thing to do and we better have a really good rationale behind it if that indeed what is decided on.

Regarding opening up in general, doctors have a huge role to play, but there are lots of factors at play. We have to account for the full spectrum (accounting for economics, psychology, etc.). Locking down until/if a vaccine is almost assuredly the best move from a pure public health perspective, but that doesn’t mean it’s the right move for society at large.
 
superjames1992 said:
From a pure health perspective, keeping schools locked down indefinitely probably is the right call. But health isn’t the only factor at play here. We also have to factor in society, economics, learning, etc.

If we keep schools closed into the fall, we’re looking at basically throwing away a year of learning for today’s schoolchildren. That’s a pretty extreme thing to do and we better have a really good rationale behind it if that indeed what is decided on.

Regarding opening up in general, doctors have a huge role to play, but there are lots of factors at play. We have to account for the full spectrum (accounting for economics, psychology, etc.). Locking down until/if a vaccine is almost assuredly the best move from a pure public health perspective, but that doesn’t mean it’s the right move for society at large.
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If we stay shut down and schools shut down till a vaccine then that would be a disaster. Is it really healthy to stay locked down till a vaccine? The people dying from this virus is not anything like predicted. Cases may go up but if deaths do not go up much then why continue to stay shut down. The vaccine may not work and you can’t force anyone to take the vaccine. I will not take any vaccine.
 
Looks like Pelosi will unveil a new $3 trillion dollar relief package. This would be on top of the $3 trillion already spent.
 
Matthew70 said:
Please tell me it does not have $2k a month in it. Or universal income.
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It sounds like it’ll be full of pork but no universal income. The plan will be unveiled at 3 I believe so we will find out more then. Also a second round of stimulus payments in it.
 
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