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Jrips2710 said:
Not hard to see why Trump has dipped in the polls significantly. The worse COVID-19 gets again the lower he's going to drop. It's obvious he is trying to shift the narrative away from the virus.

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Nate needs to rethink his position.

www.express.co.uk

Trump news: Black Lives Matter protests will get Trump re-elected

THE FALLOUT from the Black Lives Matter protests in the US offers Donald Trump his best chance of winning the Presidential election, a shock poll for the Sunday Express has revealed.
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Jimmy Hypocracy said:
lol which one of you demmy libs is going to pay my part?

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If that passes they will have a major influx of new citizens to Asheville
 

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We seriously have a generation of brainless people. No wonder liberals need socialism. They can’t think for themselves or take care of themselves.
 
Matthew70 said:
I’m not saying I will not vote for Biden. His VP choice will be the key. I will vote for a third-party if they have a good chance of winning and we were not being threatened with liberals taking over.
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Dude you are all over the place....lol. A third party candidate did win in 2016. His name was Donald Trump. Granted he has proven himself to many of the Republicans that doubted him in 2016. This election is real simple. Capitalism or an uncomfortable nudge towards socialism. Laweful society versus one run amoke with mob mentality
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
lol which one of you demmy libs is going to pay my part?

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Every where I’m going I hear a civil war is coming. Things like this are only making the whites angrier. It’s not going to be pretty if civil war breaks out. Over 50% whites and 14% blacks. Not one person alive today owned slaves. Not one person of any race should apologize for what happened a long time ago. History is just that history. We learn from it and don’t repeat it.
 
Sandbar said:
Dude you are all over the place....lol. A third party candidate did win in 2016. His name was Donald Trump. Granted he has proven himself to many of the Republicans that doubted him in 2016. This election is real simple. Capitalism or an uncomfortable nudge towards socialism. Laweful society versus one run amoke with mob mentality
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Trump can be considered 3rd party yes but eventually was under banner of Republican. Same as Liberals are under banner of Democrats. I consider a true 3rd party that stays unaffiliated with either Republicans or Democrats. Trump should have stayed without affiliation.
 
Jrips2710 said:
Not hard to see why Trump has dipped in the polls significantly. The worse COVID-19 gets again the lower he's going to drop. It's obvious he is trying to shift the narrative away from the virus.

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I.mean he said we should just learn to deal with it.......he only said that because he realizes he screwed this up and doesnt know how to fix it.
 
Matthew70 said:
Every where I’m going I hear a civil war is coming. Things like this are only making the whites angrier. It’s not going to be pretty if civil war breaks out. Over 50% whites and 14% blacks. Not one person alive today owned slaves. Not one person of any race should apologize for what happened a long time ago. History is just that history. We learn from it and don’t repeat it.
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If there’s a civil war the white America loving people. And even a few blacks will be on the good side. The good side will win this civil war and save America


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Matthew70 said:
Polls absolutely mean nothing. They are all bias and history shows from many past elections never trust them.
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CoolNights said:
Nate needs to rethink his position.

www.express.co.uk

Trump news: Black Lives Matter protests will get Trump re-elected

THE FALLOUT from the Black Lives Matter protests in the US offers Donald Trump his best chance of winning the Presidential election, a shock poll for the Sunday Express has revealed.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
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The idea that polls are always biased and always wrong is a bad take. Can Trump still win in November? Absolutely. There are 4 months to go. That's a lot of time and many many news cycles. But to say that he is in a good spot right now just isn't true.

Cherry-picking one poll from some conservative site when the national polling average from good pollsters is Biden 9-12 is also a yikes.

If you want to read up on polling accuracy over the years - https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/

Spoiler: 2016 was a perfect storm where state polling missed by 4-6 points in key states that tipped the election to Trump. But the polls haven't gotten more biased or worse over time. That 2016 error isn't far from an average miss. I don't think anyone from Trump's campaign would be comfortable with where they stand today.
 
Matthew70 said:
I have not flip-flopped I have been very steady on Not saying who I am voting for. Right now Trump has the lead but who knows he may not even make it till November. Biden also. There is so much time between now and the election how could anyone be for certain who they’re voting. We have debates still to hopefully see. That’s why I don’t understand your obsession with polls at this time. They mean nothing. If Biden was to pick let’s say a conservative as his vp? Would you seriously not consider him? If Trump does something really crazy would you really still vote for him? We have four months to see what all happens. The way 2020 has been that is a lifetime.
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Matthew dont take offense to this but you know exactly what you are going to get at this point. EXACTLY! Its your vote but basedon your posting history I cant put my finger on it. Tou seem to change your mind every 15 minutes.....its really odd
 
Jrips2710 said:
The idea that polls are always biased and always wrong is a bad take. Can Trump still win in November? Absolutely. There are 4 months to go. That's a lot of time and many many news cycles. But to say that he is in a good spot right now just isn't true.

Cherry-picking one poll from some conservative site when the national polling average from good pollsters is Biden 9-12 is also a yikes.

If you want to read up on polling accuracy over the years - https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/

Spoiler: 2016 was a perfect storm where state polling missed by 4-6 points in key states that tipped the election to Trump. But the polls haven't gotten more biased or worse over time. That 2016 error isn't far from an average miss. I don't think anyone from Trump's campaign would be comfortable with where they stand today.
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I don’t think Trump is in a good spot at all but also realize with 4 months to go. Anything can happen. With the way some of these cities such as Asheville and states likes NY, CA, WA and others. I think America has a lot more to worry about than this election. America is a powder keg that is close to exploding. With the virus fatigue and now the white privileged and reparations talk. That is a recipe for a disaster. With fall coming and adding flu into mix. Sheesh can it be 2022 already. Let’s skip 2021 just in case.
 
Jrips2710 said:
The idea that polls are always biased and always wrong is a bad take. Can Trump still win in November? Absolutely. There are 4 months to go. That's a lot of time and many many news cycles. But to say that he is in a good spot right now just isn't true.

Cherry-picking one poll from some conservative site when the national polling average from good pollsters is Biden 9-12 is also a yikes.

If you want to read up on polling accuracy over the years - https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/

Spoiler: 2016 was a perfect storm where state polling missed by 4-6 points in key states that tipped the election to Trump. But the polls haven't gotten more biased or worse over time. That 2016 error isn't far from an average miss. I don't think anyone from Trump's campaign would be comfortable with where they stand today.
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The primaries told me everything I needed to know about November. For Trump to turn those numbers out in those early states with no challenger and based on the enthusiasm I am seeing across the country now. The debates are coming and if Biden slips even in the slightest he is toast. Anger isnt enough to win this
 
Sandbar said:
Matthew dont take offense to this but you know exactly what you are going to get at this point. EXACTLY! Its your vote but basedon your posting history I cant put my finger on it. Tou seem to change your mind every 15 minutes.....its really odd
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No offense at all sir. Trump has my vote but again 4 months to go. Just like polls. Up and down. I agree this election is about Capitalism and Socialism. I have said that many times. But Trumps tactics are wearing on me. I think many people are like me. This election is ever changing. Both candidates suck. Maybe I’m hoping a true 3rd party comes forward and not Kayne??‍♂️. Maybe Biden will shock us all and chose a great vp. Is there really anything wrong with not be certain of who we’re voting for?
 
Matthew70 said:
No offense at all sir. Trump has my vote but again 4 months to go. Just like polls. Up and down. I agree this election is about Capitalism and Socialism. I have said that many times. But Trumps tactics are wearing on me. I think many people are like me. This election is ever changing. Both candidates suck. Maybe I’m hoping a true 3rd party comes forward and not Kayne. Maybe Biden will shock us all and chose a great vp. Is there really anything wrong with not be certain of who we’re voting for?
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Who karmela Harris or stacy Abrams lol


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Matthew70 said:
No offense at all sir. Trump has my vote but again 4 months to go. Just like polls. Up and down. I agree this election is about Capitalism and Socialism. I have said that many times. But Trumps tactics are wearing on me. I think many people are like me. This election is ever changing. Both candidates suck. Maybe I’m hoping a true 3rd party comes forward and not Kayne??‍♂️. Maybe Biden will shock us all and chose a great vp. Is there really anything wrong with not be certain of who we’re voting for?
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If many people are this confused then yeah, thats pretty frightening. You've had 4 years of Donald Trump and it is what it is. You have either prospered or you havent. Joe Biden has been there 45 years and hasnt done a GD thing. I wouldn't be getting inspired by any VP pick. If it comes to that the country is in deep deep doo doo.....
 
CoolNights said:
You mean like ABC/Washington Post polls?

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Yeah they are actual pollsters with a track record we can quantify, what you did is literally cherry picked one of the few good polls out there for Trump from a group that is a far right blog site more or less with a unscientific poll because it said something you liked in the face of overwhelming polling suggesting Trump is getting curb stomped.

Then you fall back on the Clinton/Trump polls because its all you have.....
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah they are actual pollsters with a track record we can quantify, what you did is literally cherry picked one of the few good polls out there for Trump from a group that is a far right blog site more or less with a unscientific poll because it said something you liked in the face of overwhelming polling suggesting Trump is getting curb stomped.

Then you fall back on the Clinton/Trump polls because its all you have.....
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Track record? Trump WINS Hillary LOSES. Interesting track record.
 
Jrips2710 said:
Your evidence that polls suck is a Clinton +4% poll when she won the popular by 2.1%? Seems to me like that's a pretty good poll.
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Yeah this, Trump folks think Trump won big in 2016, Trump literally won by the slimmest of margins.....he lost the popular vote and edged out a win in the rust belt by fewer than 75k votes over 3 states.....all indications are that the independents and women and hell lots of Republicans are leaving Trump in droves.....but hey that silent majority will show up and Trump will win by a landslide.....
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah they are actual pollsters with a track record we can quantify, what you did is literally cherry picked one of the few good polls out there for Trump from a group that is a far right blog site more or less with a unscientific poll because it said something you liked in the face of overwhelming polling suggesting Trump is getting curb stomped.

Then you fall back on the Clinton/Trump polls because its all you have.....
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All I have? So what do you have? The same old tired polls gaslighting people just like they did in 2016. At least I have the reality of a Trump win.
 
Major polling firms couldn't find Trump's support when thousands showed up at stadiums across the country while Hillary couldn't fill a bathroom. I believe they will once again have the same challenge and intent.
 
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