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Maybe you guys have gone over this in one of the many pages of dead horse beating but when you guys say open up do you actually mean let's just revert back to the way things were and everyone is just to take their chances?
 
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Second stimulus plan that would send $2,000 to Americans every month for SIX months gaining support

AMERICANS could get checks of $2,000 every month for six months via a second stimulus plan that is gaining support amid the coronavirus crisis. Reps. Tim Ryan from Ohio and Ro Khanna of California …
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Omg. This seriously is the end of capitalism and America as we know it. Even Pelosi is saying time for a basic universal income. Yet many will love this idea not thinking the other cost will be hyperinflation and high taxes.
 
Shaggy said:
Sure a stepped approach is the way to go. It seems that most of the trump supporters want to open the flood gates to save their kings chances
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There are folks on here that think this extensive sheltering isn't about getting Trump at all. That I am crazy for thinking such a thing! I think its time that many on here just admit there is at least a smidge of political motivation here. I have many reasons for wanting to get this economy back on track and Trump's re-election is one of them. Sorry but I am a realist and there is no way in hell you will convince me that you or your brother aren't cheering for his failure on this.
 
SD said:
Maybe you guys have gone over this in one of the many pages of dead horse beating but when you guys say open up do you actually mean let's just revert back to the way things were and everyone is just to take their chances?
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Great question. I do not at all. Keep social distancing and respecting others. Restaurants can start with half occupancy. Many will go under I’m sure but open to full capacity in another month. Either way we have to face this virus and eventually let everyone be exposed to it. We can’t keep movies and sports arenas shut down. Colleges and schools also. It sucks either road we take.
 
Sandbar said:
There are folks on here that think this extensive sheltering isn't about getting Trump at all. That I am crazy for thinking such a thing! I think its time that many on here just admit there is at least a smidge of political motivation here. I have many reasons for wanting to get this economy back on track and Trump's re-election is one of them. Sorry but I am a realist and there is no way in hell you will convince me that you or your brother aren't cheering for his failure on this.
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You would be incorrect. Trump failing means people die as we have seen happening because of his previous failure to take this seriously.
 
SD said:
Maybe you guys have gone over this in one of the many pages of dead horse beating but when you guys say open up do you actually mean let's just revert back to the way things were and everyone is just to take their chances?
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I think a SLOW relaxation of the restrictions is the way to go....if you go full bore, like it was before, I'm afraid we may revert right back to where we were. If the lockdowns continue much more, though, I believe most of the nation will revolt and ignore whatever restrictions are place on them. I'll be curious to see what Californians do this weekend.
A phased in approach will help relieve the pressure and anxiety for many people and help the economy, which is greatly needed. Severe precautions need to be taken for the most vulnerable (elderly, people with underlying health issues) until a viable vaccine or medicine is widely available.
 
Shaggy said:
You would be incorrect. Trump failing means people die as we have seen happening because of his previous failure to take this seriously.
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I know Trump gets a lot of blame but there is A LOT of blame to go around. I think you can also call out many others(Pelosi, Biden, DeBlasio, Cuomo). Yes, he's the president and ultimately the buck falls with him. I'm thinking 50% of the people in the US fault Trump and 50% think he has handled this fine. In fact, 50% of people in the country would somehow fault Trump if he cured breast cancer since he didn't cure prostrate cancer at the same time....just sayin
 
WxGSO said:
I know Trump gets a lot of blame but there is A LOT of blame to go around. I think you can also call out many others(Pelosi, Biden, DeBlasio, Cuomo). Yes, he's the president and ultimately the buck falls with him. I'm thinking 50% of the people in the US fault Trump and 50% think he has handled this fine. In fact, 50% of people in the country would somehow fault Trump if he cured breast cancer since he didn't cure prostrate cancer at the same time....just sayin
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Trump solely owns the failed testing and blowing off of the seriousness of this early on. If Burr and the Georgia politician knew after their first and only briefings to sell their stocks then trump was being briefed on its seriousness as well.
 
SD said:
Maybe you guys have gone over this in one of the many pages of dead horse beating but when you guys say open up do you actually mean let's just revert back to the way things were and everyone is just to take their chances?
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Speaking for myself....We need to slowly open things back up but when we do it we need to do it. People are going to be cautious and so will many businesses. Not all will but at some point we have to trust people will keep in mind that we need to remain vigilant. Its not going to disappear but we cant keep closing up because of graphs all and models. They have shown me their certainly arent fail proof
 
Sandbar said:
Speaking for myself....We need to slowly open things back up but when we do it we need to do it. People are going to be cautious and so will many businesses. Not all will but at some point we have to trust people will keep in mind that we need to remain vigilant. Its not going to disappear but we cant keep closing up because of graphs all and models. They have shown me their certainly arent fail proof
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The biggest piece of the puzzle and the one that I think will fail will be people being responsible enough to stay home when sick. Businesses need to not force people to work sick through BS absentee policies.
 
To think this economic mess is just starting. I can’t imagine the numbers of lawsuits that are going to come forth. From people getting it at work places to who knows where else will sue I’m sure. Bankruptcies in court will be countless from individuals to businesses. Medical bankruptcies will be countless. The division in America will be greater Im afraid because of people fearful and if get to close to them they will freak out. I’m sure parents won’t let some kids go to school because of fear. Schools will be liable to lawsuits if a kid gets it there. Even child care places. Added with the flu good grief. Even opening up will never be the same. I’d almost guaranteed a lot of businesses will hire less to avoid close contact and will have to sign a waiver can not sue that place of employment. Lawyers are going to be busy. Would not surprise me if many businesses just shut down for good to avoid any issues or drama. The red tape will be to costly. Most plants will look to go full AI to avoid people not working and less cost.
 
Matthew70 said:
To think this economic mess is just starting. I can’t imagine the numbers of lawsuits that are going to come forth. From people getting it at work places to who knows where else will sue I’m sure. Bankruptcies in court will be countless from individuals to businesses. Medical bankruptcies will be countless. The division in America will be greater Im afraid because of people fearful and if get to close to them they will freak out. I’m sure parents won’t let some kids go to school because of fear. Schools will be liable to lawsuits if a kid gets it there. Even child care places. Added with the flu good grief. Even opening up will never be the same. I’d almost guaranteed a lot of businesses will hire less to avoid close contact and will have to sign a waiver can not sue that place of employment. Lawyers are going to be busy. Would not surprise me if many businesses just shut down for good to avoid any issues or drama. The red tape will be to costly. Most plants will look to go full AI to avoid people not working and less cost.
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Take some stimulus money buy some stank weed and smoke it.
 
Shaggy said:
Trump solely owns the failed testing and blowing off of the seriousness of this early on. If Burr and the Georgia politician knew after their first and only briefings to sell their stocks then trump was being briefed on its seriousness as well.
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Well we have been over the "he blew it off crap". So did Fauci if you really want to be specific. There is one thing to blow off the seriousness of something even with the intelligence you "did have". Its completely different to OVERTHINK on it and panic especially when you are in charge of the well being of 300 million people (healthwise and economically). Our "country" was behind on the testing and that was due to many factors. But of course Trump is easy to target on that one...….
 
If the all the people wasting their time complaining about our current situation put their time into helping the community they live in things would improve. I'm growing as much produce as possible to donate to the local food bank. My wife is coordinating deliveries of food to the elderly and my kids are helping with farm. If you don't have the land to grow food but are financially secure donate to the needy. Little things from individuals adds up.
 
Shaggy said:
Social distancing, reduced store capacity and testing testing testing. That's how we need to structure the reopen
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And how often do we test? Who do we test? Who pays for all these test? What if a fake positive and you quarantine someone and others wrongfully? They lose their job or house. Can they sue? How long reduced store capacity? Stores cant survive on half capacity forever.
 
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