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Avalanche said:
I don't see how anyone thinks the parties "switched". Most republicans support Freedom/Liberty/Life. Makes sense that they would be against slavery and oppression. Just because most Republicans are against affirmative action, doesn't mean the platform has changed or switched. Republicans support freedom of oppression in most of the globe. Its why they are against communism, current Government of China and others that severly mistreat their citizens.

Now their stance against affirmative action and special treatment of certain so called groups is because its just that exactly.

Its idiocy to think you can be pro freedom and have to support affirmative action (which is not freedom), because that's dictating.
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It is an interesting discussion for sure. I think many are way oversimplifying it though. We can't just look at two EC maps from decades apart and use it to say there has been a switch, or that there has not. There's far too many cultural, social, and political events and changes to consider for a couple of map shots to settle it. It's not like the parties have remained basically unchanged over the past 160 years and the names just switched like some seem to be implying; ie, today's Republican party is the Democratic party of 1860 and vice-versa. We're in a whole different time period now than the country was then and some issues are vastly different. There are several theories on this. Some say there was indeed a switch in recent decades, some say there wasn't, and others theorize there have been multiple "switches." I am not sure it's really possible to say one party has been consistently on the "right" side of all the issues for the duration of that time through all of the changes. Perhaps conservative/liberal values have always been there but the party banners haven't always kept pace? Certainly Republicans were on the right side of slavery in 1860. As a conservative I think they're on the right side of most of the issues of today. Switches in between? Maybe.
 
JHS said:
We need a 3rd party badly but will not get it. If we got one I'd like it to be be close to the center. Perhaps a little left on economic issues.

Extremists have took over both parties we have now.
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I absolutely agree it would be nice to have at least one more viable party to consider. The extremes of both parties seems to have taken over and that is hard to get around. There are some issues, like abortion, that one is either for or against without the possibility of any real middle ground. But there is plenty of room for compromise on many issues such as environment, education, healthcare, etc. The extreme candidates don't really reflect the views of many voters but they are voted for because they are more conservative or liberal in nature. Unfortunately, voters are judged for those candidate's entire platforms. The media and other party candidates make it seem as if voters are just as extreme as the candidates they vote for and the tug or war tightens. Not much allowance for meeting in the middle.
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
It is an interesting discussion for sure. I think many are way oversimplifying it though. We can't just look at two EC maps from decades apart and use it to say there has been a switch, or that there has not. There's far too many cultural, social, and political events and changes to consider for a couple of map shots to settle it. It's not like the parties have remained basically unchanged over the past 160 years and the names just switched like some seem to be implying; ie, today's Republican party is the Democratic party of 1860 and vice-versa. We're in a whole different time period now than the country was then and some issues are vastly different. There are several theories on this. Some say there was indeed a switch in recent decades, some say there wasn't, and others theorize there have been multiple "switches." I am not sure it's really possible to say one party has been consistently on the "right" side of all the issues for the duration of that time through all of the changes. Perhaps conservative/liberal values have always been there but the party banners haven't always kept pace? Certainly Republicans were on the right side of slavery in 1860. As a conservative I think they're on the right side of most of the issues of today. Switches in between? Maybe.
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Great analysis
 
Snowflowxxl said:
Trump was a moron for retweeting that White Power video.
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Trump has been his own worst enemy during his presidency. He seems to be an narcissistic jerk, but that aside; if he could have managed to stay off twitter and control his impulsive mouth a few notches he would have probably been fine. He may well win the election for poor Joe.
 
superjames1992 said:
Not my state, but as an outsider I’m glad to see the flag changing. It was quite a thorn in the eye of a significant portion of the state’s population (Mississippi has the highest demographic percentage of African Americans of any state).
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I was alright with the change it’s just that the state legislature decided to change it instead of allowing for a referendum and letting the people of Mississippi decide if they wanted it or not.
 
Iceagewhereartthou said:
Trump has been his own worst enemy during his presidency. He seems to be an narcissistic jerk, but that aside; if he could have managed to stay off twitter and control his impulsive mouth a few notches he would have probably been fine. He may well win the election for poor Joe.
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I wish he would just step down. Let Pence run.
 
Snowflowxxl said:
That’s how you guarantee a loss
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If you look at what those on the left are doing such as mass gatherings (supposedly something that shouldn't be done), violence on commerce (business owners, buildings), and violence in protests, sometimes against people, media attack on those on the right, silence for those on the left....Pence seems too mild, polite, and mannerful to go to battle against all that.
 


This is from a pastor. It’s about 15 minutes long. I recommend people watch this. It involves the possibility of a civil war possibly troops on the ground possibly Russian and Chinese troops. It’s scary but should be watched. I would recommend stocking up on food guns ammo right now!


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Avalanche said:
If you look at what those on the left are doing such as mass gatherings (supposedly something that shouldn't be done), violence on commerce (business owners, buildings), and violence in protests, sometimes against people, media attack on those on the right, silence for those on the left....Pence seems too mild, polite, and mannerful to go to battle against all that.
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Well, the conservatives need a candidate that can counter the left without the extreme narcissism. I guess there is always 2024 if conservatives can keep the Senate. That’s probably must important at this point.
 
Jessy89 said:


This is from a pastor. It’s about 15 minutes long. I recommend people watch this. It involves the possibility of a civil war possibly troops on the ground possibly Russian and Chinese troops. It’s scary but should be watched. I would recommend stocking up on food guns ammo right now!


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Did you take off your tin foil hat this morning? Double your meds.
 
Jessy89 said:


This is from a pastor. It’s about 15 minutes long. I recommend people watch this. It involves the possibility of a civil war possibly troops on the ground possibly Russian and Chinese troops. It’s scary but should be watched. I would recommend stocking up on food guns ammo right now!


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If you believe anything this guy is saying you need to drive yourself over to a medical facility for a psych eval.
 
Steven_1974 said:
If you believe anything this guy is saying you need to drive yourself over to a medical facility for a psych eval.
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But how do you know this can’t happen? That’s my only question how do you know until the time he mentioned gets here and doesn’t happen.


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My question is if Trump has a 95% support in the Republican Party. How does Trump lose with that much support? Is it that the Republican Party is that small and how much support does Biden have in the Democratic Party?


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Jessy89 said:
Or may I come ask you at the end of the year. What you think then when this stuff starts happening? That ok with you


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Let's just quote your post in December and see how inaccurate it is. 99.99% chance that doesn't happen. I don't take some random guy's dream video off the internet and call it a prophecy set in stone.
 
Avalanche said:
If you look at what those on the left are doing such as mass gatherings (supposedly something that shouldn't be done), violence on commerce (business owners, buildings), and violence in protests, sometimes against people, media attack on those on the right, silence for those on the left....Pence seems too mild, polite, and mannerful to go to battle against all that.
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Only the left?
 
weatherfide said:
Well, the conservatives need a candidate that can counter the left without the extreme narcissism. I guess there is always 2024 if conservatives can keep the Senate. That’s probably must important at this point.
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The left is at war with America as you know it or knew it. Trust me when I say you want Nathan Jessup on that wall. That narcissist SOB. Regardless of what happens this year when 2024 rolls around your run of the mill John McCain or Mittens who thinks they can "reach across the aisle" isnt gonna cut it. If your "actual conservative" folks have learned anything about the last few weeks its that the left has gone in full anarchist mode and Joe Biden is just their puppet. We obviously still have a very weak link in the right voting ranks that still believes being nice to Democrats is the answer. You can't carry a pair of chop sticks to a gun fight...…I wish it wasnt this way, I really do, but it is...…

I dont see you as a weak individual, just using your post to make a point!
 
Sandbar said:
The left is at war with America as you know it or knew it. Trust me when I say you want Nathan Jessup on that wall. That narcissist SOB. Regardless of what happens this year when 2024 rolls around your run of the mill John McCain or Mittens who thinks they can "reach across the aisle" isnt gonna cut it. If your "actual conservative" folks have learned anything about the last few weeks its that the left has gone in full anarchist mode and Joe Biden is just their puppet. We obviously still have a very weak link in the right voting ranks that still believes being nice to Democrats is the answer. You can't carry a pair of chop sticks to a gun fight...…I wish it wasnt this way, I really do, but it is...…

I dont see you as a weak individual, just using your post to make a point!
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What a load of hyperbolic bs.
 
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