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[Deleted member 527]

China seizes Covid-19 advantage in South China Sea - Asia Times

MANILA - With the Covid-19 pandemic mostly contained in China and now wreaking havoc on the United States, security analysts are closely watching

asiatimes.com

America should pull everything that is made over there or not allow it into the USA once we start making it here. Cut China off completely.

 

[ghost1]

Probably more so Democrats after all they represent big government

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You do understand that Trump has turned to Big Government to try and bail us out of the Covid crisis not increasing free market captialism. We are now for the next few weeks basically a country under hardline socialism.

 

[Jessy89]

You do understand that Trump has turned to Big Government to try and bail us out of the Covid crisis not increasing free market captialism. We are now for the next few weeks basically a country under hardline socialism.

I guess you could say that. However he has not called for a national lockdown. He could have but has not and will not


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[LithiaWx]

Lol, based on the last page you can tell who got banned from posting in the coronavirus thread. Lmao

 

[Webberweather53]

So many willing to give up their freedoms so easily. Become sheeple of the govt.

This post and many others on this page are quintessential examples of why you & @Jessy89 were banned from posting in the CoV-19 thread. Both of you are so far removed from reality and really the rest of the forum & society in general, it stopped becoming laughable weeks ago even by the most ardent "trumpets".

 

[Webberweather53]

Here's a map of every state that's issued stay-at-home orders.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-map-stay-at-home-orders-lockdowns-2020-3

Now, take a really close look at the 12 governors of the states that haven't issued a full state-wide lockdown...

North Dakota - Doug Burgum (Republican)

South Dakota - Kristi Noem (Republican)

Nebraska - Pete Ricketts (Republican)

Iowa - Kim Reynolds (Republican)

Wyoming - Mark Gordon (Republican)

Utah - Gary Herbert (Republican)

Missouri - Mike Parson (Republican)

Arkansas - Asa Hutchinson (Republican)

Oklahoma - Kevin Stitt (Republican)

Texas - Greg Abbott (Republican)

Alabama - Kay Ivey (Republican)

South Carolina - Henry McMaster (Republican)



Notice anything?

They are all republicans.

Despite the blame that should befall both parties, it's almost like one political party STILL isn't taking this anywhere near as seriously as the other. Honestly not sure what these people and states are waiting for, but one could easily conclude they are not only putting their own constituents at risk, but neighboring states, it's easy to see at a national level ,what waiting for more cases to emerge in your area has done to strain the response of local hospitals (which are not only dealing w/ capacity problems, don't have the necessary supplies to protect their workers).

It's truly deplorable that Trump and his administration has refrained from issuing a nationwide lockdown, but I expect nothing less from him.

 

[Shaggy]

Sounds like the land of trump.

Theyll be the biggest chips the best, nobody's ever seen any like these chips before, really great chips just the best!

 

[Arcc]

Here's a map of every state that's issued stay-at-home orders.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-map-stay-at-home-orders-lockdowns-2020-3
View attachment 38228
Now, take a really close look at the 12 governors of the states that haven't issued a full state-wide lockdown...

North Dakota - Doug Burgum (Republican)

South Dakota - Kristi Noem (Republican)

Nebraska - Pete Ricketts (Republican)

Iowa - Kim Reynolds (Republican)

Wyoming - Mark Gordon (Republican)

Utah - Gary Herbert (Republican)

Missouri - Mike Parson (Republican)

Arkansas - Asa Hutchinson (Republican)

Oklahoma - Kevin Stitt (Republican)

Texas - Greg Abbott (Republican)

Alabama - Kay Ivey (Republican)

South Carolina - Henry McMaster (Republican)



Notice anything?

They are all republicans.

Despite the blame that should befall both parties, it's almost like one political party STILL isn't taking this anywhere near as seriously as the other. Honestly not sure what these people and states are waiting for, but one could easily conclude they are not only putting their own constituents at risk, but neighboring states, it's easy to see at a national level ,what waiting for more cases to emerge in your area has done to strain the response of local hospitals (which are not only dealing w/ capacity problems, don't have the necessary supplies to protect their workers).

It's truly deplorable that Trump and his administration has refrained from issuing a nationwide lockdown, but I expect nothing less from him.

Most of the state lock downs are symbolic nonsense. They really do not differ from what AL already has in place besides the actual order to stay home. Until they actually contain restrictions on travel, check points, curfews and time slotted at stores, ect, and actual penalties, they really are just feel good laws.

 

[Webberweather53]

Until states start issuing


Most of the state lock downs are symbolic nonsense. They really do not differ from what AL already has in place besides the actual order to stay home. Until they actually contain restrictions on travel, check points, curfews and time slotted at stores, ect, they really are just feel good laws.

They're definitely not, the statewide lockdowns are in fact enforceable by law and you can be fined or thrown in jail for not adhering to them (I have to cary proof of employment every time I go to work now in NC, this was mandated by Harris Teeter in response to our state's lockdown), suggestions and half-a**ed lockdowns in portions of the state or to a few operations by these 12 republican governors are not however. Doing nothing as ND, SD, NE, IA, & AR have done, is completely idiotic and indefensible at this stage in the crisis but again not surprised given how the GOP has handled this thus far.

 

[Sandbar]

Here's a map of every state that's issued stay-at-home orders.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-map-stay-at-home-orders-lockdowns-2020-3
View attachment 38228
Now, take a really close look at the 12 governors of the states that haven't issued a full state-wide lockdown...

North Dakota - Doug Burgum (Republican)

South Dakota - Kristi Noem (Republican)

Nebraska - Pete Ricketts (Republican)

Iowa - Kim Reynolds (Republican)

Wyoming - Mark Gordon (Republican)

Utah - Gary Herbert (Republican)

Missouri - Mike Parson (Republican)

Arkansas - Asa Hutchinson (Republican)

Oklahoma - Kevin Stitt (Republican)

Texas - Greg Abbott (Republican)

Alabama - Kay Ivey (Republican)

South Carolina - Henry McMaster (Republican)



Notice anything?

They are all republicans.

Despite the blame that should befall both parties, it's almost like one political party STILL isn't taking this anywhere near as seriously as the other. Honestly not sure what these people and states are waiting for, but one could easily conclude they are not only putting their own constituents at risk, but neighboring states, it's easy to see at a national level ,what waiting for more cases to emerge in your area has done to strain the response of local hospitals (which are not only dealing w/ capacity problems, don't have the necessary supplies to protect their workers).

It's truly deplorable that Trump and his administration has refrained from issuing a nationwide lockdown, but I expect nothing less from him.

And how do you enforce a national lockdown in a nation of 300 million people? With guns? grenades? tanks? drone strikes? Its just words. The effort it would take for such a thing is IMPOSSIBLE to enforce. The majority of people are doing as good a job as can be done in isolating themselves which is more than likely the reason those states haven't issued anything yet if they even will. Its note a 1 size fits all answer

 

[Arcc]

They're definitely not, the statewide lockdowns are in fact enforceable by law and you can be fined or thrown in jail for not adhering to them (I have to cary proof of employment every time I go to work now in NC, this was mandated by Harris Teeter in response to our state's lockdown), suggestions and half-a**ed lockdowns in portions of the state or to a few operations by these 12 republican governors are not however. Doing nothing as ND, SD, NE, IA, & AR have done, is completely idiotic and indefensible at this stage in the crisis but again not surprised given how the GOP has handled this thus far.

So your state is actively doing check points to see who is following the law and limit travel? I’m not defending AL or the government here because they are mostly idiots on the best sunny day. I have read the “lock down” order in NC and they allow you to leave your home for lots of reasons. Unless something has changed, no curfew is in place. I’m of the opinion if you are gonna lock down, lock down. Have check points, put limits on Walmart and Home Depot. Slow county to county travel.

 

[Metwannabe]

So your state is actively doing check points to see who is following the law and limit travel? I’m not defending AL or the government here because they are mostly idiots on the best sunny day. I have read the “lock down” order in NC and they allow you to leave your home for lots of reasons. Unless something has changed, no curfew is in place. I’m of the opinion if you are gonna lock down, lock down. Have check points, put limits on Walmart and Home Depot. Slow county to county travel.

No they aren't doing check points and as the Gov stated the other day, IF they stop someone they will encourage them to adhere to the order. Only flagrant repeat offenders will most likely be charged and that is entirely at the discretion of local law enforcement and the District Attorney. While most businesses have told employees to carry ID or some sort of verification of employment, it's not necessary. The Dir of Emergency Management the other day even stated individuals did not need documents or permits with them. As you mentioned they are just "feel good orders".

 

[CamWX]

You can't make this stuff up. I am ashamed this man is our governor.

Kemp claims he didn’t know until this week that the new coronavirus could be spread by people who aren’t showing symptoms of covid-19.

Georgia's Idiot Governor Says He Didn't Know People Could Spread Covid-19 Without Symptoms

Georgia’s Governor Brian Kemp gave a press conference on Wednesday, announcing a new shelter-in-place order that’s been long overdue. But Kemp also admitted something that should terrify every person living in and around Georgia: Kemp claims he didn’t know until this week that the new...

gizmodo.com

 

[Deleted member 527]

This post and many others on this page are quintessential examples of why you & @Jessy89 were banned from posting in the CoV-19 thread. Both of you are so far removed from reality and really the rest of the forum & society in general, it stopped becoming laughable weeks ago even by the most ardent "trumpets".

I appreciate your psychology exam on us both. Good thing you are not a psychologist because your prognosis of many would be wrong meaning you would be a terrible one at that. I read what you say and your wx input is really good. I am not going to put you down because I do not want to stoop to your level. Everyone has a right to their beliefs and opinions. That is what makes America great and all of us unique.

 

[Deleted member 527]

Here's a map of every state that's issued stay-at-home orders.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-map-stay-at-home-orders-lockdowns-2020-3
View attachment 38228
Now, take a really close look at the 12 governors of the states that haven't issued a full state-wide lockdown...

North Dakota - Doug Burgum (Republican)

South Dakota - Kristi Noem (Republican)

Nebraska - Pete Ricketts (Republican)

Iowa - Kim Reynolds (Republican)

Wyoming - Mark Gordon (Republican)

Utah - Gary Herbert (Republican)

Missouri - Mike Parson (Republican)

Arkansas - Asa Hutchinson (Republican)

Oklahoma - Kevin Stitt (Republican)

Texas - Greg Abbott (Republican)

Alabama - Kay Ivey (Republican)

South Carolina - Henry McMaster (Republican)



Notice anything?

They are all republicans.

Despite the blame that should befall both parties, it's almost like one political party STILL isn't taking this anywhere near as seriously as the other. Honestly not sure what these people and states are waiting for, but one could easily conclude they are not only putting their own constituents at risk, but neighboring states, it's easy to see at a national level ,what waiting for more cases to emerge in your area has done to strain the response of local hospitals (which are not only dealing w/ capacity problems, don't have the necessary supplies to protect their workers).

It's truly deplorable that Trump and his administration has refrained from issuing a nationwide lockdown, but I expect nothing less from him.

Only thing I notice is you want everyone forced to be locked down. You have made that clear. #Trumpsters

 

[Jessy89]

I appreciate your psychology exam on us both. Good thing you are not a psychologist because your prognosis of many would be wrong meaning you would be a terrible one at that. I read what you say and your wx input is really good. I am not going to put you down because I do not want to stoop to your level. Everyone has a right to their beliefs and opinions. That is what makes America great and all of us unique.

The reason we was banned is because we can’t have a different opinion. Somebody got there little feelings hurt. I’ve lost no sleep on stupidity


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[Deleted member 527]

Residents in Texas city can face $1,000 fine for not wearing ‘some form of covering over their nose and mouth’ after new motion

Under a motion passed by the city council in Laredo, Texas, earlier this week, residents in the town can now face a fine of up to $1,000 for not wearing some form of covering on their nose and…

thehill.com

No one sees anything wrong with this?

 

[Jessy89]

I’ll also say this I also think banning people from a thread in which is a national crises. Is a pretty dirty and wrong thing to do. Just my opinion but everyone should be welcome to discuss a crisis that’s effecting everyone in some way shape or form. Opinions people don’t agree with shouldn’t ban anyone during a time like this.


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[Deleted member 527]

'A perfect storm': US facing hunger crisis as demand for food banks soars

Food banks are reporting unprecedented demand across the US as millions lose jobs, investigation shows

www.theguardian.com

Don’t worry let’s just stay on lockdown for another month or two. Yes lives being lost is sad but millions of lives being destroyed for how many?

 

[Dewpoint Dan]

'A perfect storm': US facing hunger crisis as demand for food banks soars

Food banks are reporting unprecedented demand across the US as millions lose jobs, investigation shows

www.theguardian.com

Don’t worry let’s just stay on lockdown for another month or two. Yes lives being lost is sad but millions of lives being destroyed for how many?

I say stay on lockdown til July 4. Countless lives will be destroyed forever, but many lives will be saved at the same time.