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crecre9 said:
If you want to know why people are still protesting, it's because it's not about one man murdered by police, it's about an entire corrupt system of policing. And you are seeing it in action as police shoot and maim protestors and people standing on their own front porch. You can't defend that sort of action and have any credibility.
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I hope your not saying it’s ok to look and catch building on fire. Because what is happening is not acceptable and is very sad!


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They climbed on the truck and pointed guns at the driver. I certainly lament the death of the man who died, but I agree with Jimmy. There’s no one to blame for the man’s death except the man himself. He chose to attack an innocent truck driver; he reaped the consequences.
 
Jessy89 said:
I hope your not saying it’s ok to look and catch building on fire. Because what is happening is not acceptable and is very sad!


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I obviously did not and would not say that.but you have stated you want police to open fire on people, so I guess you are supporting the shooting of Innocents?
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Theres actually another angle of this and the looters are piled in the inbetween space between the two truck cabs and are stealing boxes with this guy stuck under the tire right under them still very much alive. No one tries to help. They totally ignore the guy and keep taking boxes.
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That's just wild. Hard to believe almost.
 
crecre9 said:
I obviously did not and would not say that.but you have stated you want police to open fire on people, so I guess you are supporting the shooting of Innocents?
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No not innocent I’m supporting the safety of the innocent


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Naming Antifa a terrorist organization will probably fuel more civil unrest. I don’t disagree with the label. But think about the consequences of a group inside the U.S. carrying this distinction; think about the rules of engagement.
 
There advertising protest for my town tomorrow! And business owners have already said they will be standing outside there stores armed loaded and ready. And will not tolerate any looting or violence of any kind to there businesses!


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Poimen said:
Naming Antifa a terrorist organization will probably fuel more civil unrest. I don’t disagree with the label. But think about the consequences of a group inside the U.S. carrying this distinction; think about the rules of engagement.
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Antifa , nothing but a bunch of spoiled and disgruntled white upper middle class kids. God Id love to send them to Somalia to see how privileged they are.
 
Poimen said:
Naming Antifa a terrorist organization will probably fuel more civil unrest. I don’t disagree with the label. But think about the consequences of a group inside the U.S. carrying this distinction; think about the rules of engagement.
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I was thinking about that as well. The engagement is the difficult part since they're citizens as well. You can't send in the military as you would with foreign terrorists since that could open the door to other issues or misuse. Plus what good nation sends their own military on their own people? I'd think using the national guard and law enforcement to crack down on them and break their organization will destroy them as a group with minimal harm to citizens or need for extreme force. For the short term the national guard would have to help law enforcement as they have been in harder hit areas.

Of course naming them one might bring the unrest to an end as they are labeled criminal if they are a part of that group no matter what, making a large number of members abandon the group and the extremists being driven under.
 
Poimen said:
They climbed on the truck and pointed guns at the driver. I certainly lament the death of the man who died, but I agree with Jimmy. There’s no one to blame for the man’s death except the man himself. He chose to attack an innocent truck driver; he reaped the consequences.
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So much outrage over riots here, but very little about the rapidly escalating police violence against protestors, media, and bystanders, in addition to the decades long record of police brutality and misconduct.
 
crecre9 said:
So much outrage over riots here, but very little about the rapidly escalating police violence against protestors, media, and bystanders, in addition to the decades long record of police brutality and misconduct.
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Protesting is a constitutional right. Looting and rioting and threatening the lives of police offers attempting to keep the peace is not.

Most people recognize there is a problem with policing in certain communities and are willing to work on this, but unfortunately it will require political leadership and bi-partisanship--two things in short supply right now.
 
NoSnowATL said:
Not just whites my friend.
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Correct , its a bit of a mischaracterization to say they are entirely white but they certainly are majority white. I cant stand self righteous liberals , or self righteous people in general. When Betsy, Karen, and Dave from ( insert generic suburban neighborhood name like pine hollow) are all mad because daddy and mommy didnt pay for their vacation to Cancun so they get deep into all this Social Justice crap and start smoking hella pot and hanging out at coffee shops called ( insert generic coffee shop name ) with poetry sessions , start victimizing themselves . Im thinking of the rich college paid for them by parents elitist self righteous kids . Boils my blood .
 
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Antifa’s American insurgency - The Spectator - news, politics, life & arts

The killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis was merely a pre-text for radicals like antifa to push their ambitious insurgency
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We are witnessing glimmers of the full insurrection the far-left has been working toward for decades. The killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis was merely a pre-text for radicals to push their ambitious insurgency. In a matter of hours, after the video of Floyd began circulating the internet, militant antifa cells across the country mobilized to Minnesota to aid Black Lives Matter rioters. Law enforcement and even the state National Guard have struggled to respond in Minnesota.
 
crecre9 said:
So much outrage over riots here, but very little about the rapidly escalating police violence against protestors, media, and bystanders, in addition to the decades long record of police brutality and misconduct.
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Because looting, beating people up, burning buildings, etc. down are CRIMINAL acts. The National Guard needs to be deployed to any cities where riots are happening or planned to shut this down. Any rioter or violent person should receive the full range of response including non-lethal methods (pepper spray, rubber bullet, etc) and charged according to what the law demands. The rule of law must prevail and order must be restored quickly.

Measures like body cameras and other things can continue to be implemented to make sure police officers are held accountable. Other changes and solutions can be discussed by leaders but you can’t expect these people to try to find a solution to the problem when they’re busy trying to bring peace back to their cities. Also, no matter what policies are put in place there will always the possibility for someone to abuse their power. The key is to make sure there is a system in place that will hold that police officer fully accountable should that happen.
 
Poimen said:
Thankfully, we live in a country that guarantees the freedom of religion. If you don't like it you can choose to reject it, but you cannot tell us to leave.
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While I'm no fan of religion it is a fundamental right in America and one that is essential. That doesn't mean I dont want to see people sorting it out and rejecting it.
 
Lessons we've learned, so far:

(1.) Don't try to loot the front trailer of a FED-EX truck, 'cuz the second trailer is....right behind you.
(2.) Don't hold a leaking Molotov cocktail over your own head, especially if its already burning like a mofo.
(3.) Don't punch a cop in the face if a bigger, badder cop is standing right behind you.

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I know of NO ONE, NO ONE, who was not disgusted by the video of the cop killing Mr George and think his day in court and justice must come. But people need to remember that this is a very very small percentage of Police Officers who act this way and there are vastly more that perform acts of kindness and heroism every day to the public that mostly go unrecognized. To try and defend the actions of the rioters, anarchists and criminals who are burning, destroying and looting in our cities is in any way an acceptable function of protests is way beyond my comprehension. We need to act firmly using all necessary non lethal means at the disposal of the Police and National Guard to control this destruction or we will soon cease to exist as a civil society.
 
A CALL TO PRAYER:
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Franklin Graham Calls for Nationwide Prayer Today

4 ways you can pray for America.
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As Christians, the greatest weapon and the most powerful defense we have is prayer. Our country needs prayer in a critical way.
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Tomorrow is Sunday, and I’m asking churches to have a special time of intercession for our nation in their Sunday morning services, whether in person or online. Will you pray, and will you share this with your pastor?
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We need to pray for PEACE, because “the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God” (James 1:20). Pray for PERSPECTIVE, because “the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere” (James 3:17).
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Pray for PATIENCE, because of God’s “kindness and forbearance and patience” toward us all (Romans 2:4). And pray for an OUTPOURING of His wisdom and direction for our leaders and officials who are dealing with this crisis. Ask God to change hearts and heal this divide in our nation.
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snowlover91 said:
Because looting, beating people up, burning buildings, etc. down are CRIMINAL acts. The National Guard needs to be deployed to any cities where riots are happening or planned to shut this down. Any rioter or violent person should receive the full range of response including non-lethal methods (pepper spray, rubber bullet, etc) and charged according to what the law demands. The rule of law must prevail and order must be restored quickly.

Measures like body cameras and other things can continue to be implemented to make sure police officers are held accountable. Other changes and solutions can be discussed by leaders but you can’t expect these people to try to find a solution to the problem when they’re busy trying to bring peace back to their cities. Also, no matter what policies are put in place there will always the possibility for someone to abuse their power. The key is to make sure there is a system in place that will hold that police officer fully accountable should that happen.
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The system needs a total overhaul if we are able going to be able to hold police and other authorities responsible for their crimes and abuses.
Don't think anyone is arguing with you about criminal rioting acts.
 
NCHighCountryWX said:
Where is the focus on the Word or God, Christian Faith and responsibilities and foundation of the family in all of this?

Crickets from the media on that
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What does that have to do with anything? The same God who's name many use to oppress and subjugate others?
 
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