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snowlover91 said:
But the question is still unanswered, what evidence is there that Obama and his officials may have done something illegal, if any? I want to see discussion of the evidence and facts surrounding the Obama situation, hard evidence for or against it happening.
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I would think that after years of investigating this if there was something there other than innuendos and pipe dreams that we would have seen them hammer by now if they could. This is all a setup by Trump to try and build up his base, they have had numerous investigations into this and still nothing.....

Again if Trump and Barr really had anything concrete here there wouldn't be stupid tweets or vague implications....
 
Downeastnc said:
I would think that after years of investigating this if there was something there other than innuendos and pipe dreams that we would have seen them hammer by now if they could. This is all a setup by Trump to try and build up his base, they have had numerous investigations into this and still nothing.....

Again if Trump and Barr really had anything concrete here there wouldn't be stupid tweets or vague implications....
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No everything is not a set up. Some have been waiting on this corruption to come to light. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it untrue.
 
Downeastnc said:
I would think that after years of investigating this if there was something there other than innuendos and pipe dreams that we would have seen them hammer by now if they could. This is all a setup by Trump to try and build up his base, they have had numerous investigations into this and still nothing.....

Again if Trump and Barr really had anything concrete here there wouldn't be stupid tweets or vague implications....
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Guess we will have to wait and see if any hard evidence comes out or not on this.
 
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snowlover91 said:
Lets wait and see if any hard evidence comes out or not on this.
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There have been several investigations into this already, first Huber, then Horowitz now Durham heck they have been investigating this longer than Muller investigated Trump and the Trumpers were in a tizzy over how long that was going on for, I guess they don't mind spending taxpayers dollars on investigations into Obama just Trump.

Huber and Horowitz were largely bust for the get Obama/Comey crowd....Durham will be the same, they will try to make it sound terrible but in the end nothing will come of it mostly because Trump and his camp did in fact get in touch with and attempt to use the Russians to further Trump's chances to be president.
 
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You'll Still Be Homeschooling Your Kids This Fall, Dr. Fauci Says — Best Life

Dr. Anthony Fauci revealed Tuesday morning that schools reopening in the fall "would be a bit of a bridge too far," in a Senate Committee hearing.
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This is absolute bs. No reason kids don’t go to school. Trump needs to dump his arse. The death rate of kids is almost 0%. The average death rate is 80-82! Isolate the 80-82. This is so freaking ridiculous. What if this virus goes on for 2 more years? No schools or sports or anything for 2 years? Those that are scared then let them stay home and not come out. No one is forcing them. No reason to in prison everyone else because of fear of some. Kids need interaction.
 
Downeastnc said:
There have been several investigations into this already, first Huber, then Horowitz now Durham heck they have been investigating this longer than Muller investigated Trump and the Trumpers were in tizzy in how long that was going on for, I guess they don't mind spending taxpayers dollars on investigations into Obama just Trump.

Huber and Horowitz were largely bust for the get Obama/Comey crowd....Durham will be the same, they will try to make it sound terrible but in the end nothing will come of it mostly because Trump and his camp did in fact get in touch with and attempt to use the Russians to further Trump's chances to be president.
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I’m not referring to the past investigations, I’m referring to the current allegations and document leaks indicating Obama and his admin were doing some spying on Trump and his campaign. We will have to wait and see what comes of it in the next few weeks to find out.
 
Downeastnc said:
There have been several investigations into this already, first Huber, then Horowitz now Durham heck they have been investigating this longer than Muller investigated Trump and the Trumpers were in tizzy in how long that was going on for, I guess they don't mind spending taxpayers dollars on investigations into Obama just Trump.

Huber and Horowitz were largely bust for the get Obama/Comey crowd....Durham will be the same, they will try to make it sound terrible but in the end nothing will come of it mostly because Trump and his camp did in fact get in touch with and attempt to use the Russians to further Trump's chances to be president.
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This is not just about that. This has to do with Flynn and Obama and his staff setting up Flynn and Trump. This was treason. We’re just getting started on the meetings Obama had with Biden and Rice. All this Russian crap was instigated by Obama to ruin Trumps chances of winning. Let’s just see what comes out. This is just starting all the dirty deeds Obama did.
 
snowlover91 said:
I’m not referring to the past investigations, I’m referring to the current allegations and document leaks indicating Obama and his admin were doing some spying on Trump and his campaign. We will have to wait and see what comes of it in the next few weeks to find out.
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Exactly the proof is now coming out he was spying on Trump. That is treason.
 
From a pure health perspective, keeping schools locked down indefinitely probably is the right call. But health isn’t the only factor at play here. We also have to factor in society, economics, learning, etc.

If we keep schools closed into the fall, we’re looking at basically throwing away a year of learning for today’s schoolchildren. That’s a pretty extreme thing to do and we better have a really good rationale behind it if that indeed what is decided on.

Regarding opening up in general, doctors have a huge role to play, but there are lots of factors at play. We have to account for the full spectrum (accounting for economics, psychology, etc.). Locking down until/if a vaccine is almost assuredly the best move from a pure public health perspective, but that doesn’t mean it’s the right move for society at large.
 
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From a pure health perspective, keeping schools locked down indefinitely probably is the right call. But health isn’t the only factor at play here. We also have to factor in society, economics, learning, etc.

If we keep schools closed into the fall, we’re looking at basically throwing away a year of learning for today’s schoolchildren. That’s a pretty extreme thing to do and we better have a really good rationale behind it if that indeed what is decided on.

Regarding opening up in general, doctors have a huge role to play, but there are lots of factors at play. We have to account for the full spectrum (accounting for economics, psychology, etc.). Locking down until/if a vaccine is almost assuredly the best move from a pure public health perspective, but that doesn’t mean it’s the right move for society at large.
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If we stay shut down and schools shut down till a vaccine then that would be a disaster. Is it really healthy to stay locked down till a vaccine? The people dying from this virus is not anything like predicted. Cases may go up but if deaths do not go up much then why continue to stay shut down. The vaccine may not work and you can’t force anyone to take the vaccine. I will not take any vaccine.
 
Looks like Pelosi will unveil a new $3 trillion dollar relief package. This would be on top of the $3 trillion already spent.
 
Matthew70 said:
Please tell me it does not have $2k a month in it. Or universal income.
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It sounds like it’ll be full of pork but no universal income. The plan will be unveiled at 3 I believe so we will find out more then. Also a second round of stimulus payments in it.
 
snowlover91 said:
It sounds like it’ll be full of pork but no universal income. The plan will be unveiled at 3 I believe so we will find out more then. Also a second round of stimulus payments in it.
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Thanks. Well might as well live while we can. Either this virus is going to kill us or Higher taxes and hyperinflation will. Oh well some say Trump will be one to kill us all. ??‍♂️
 
Bham 99 said:
Its Auburns old coach. I think if I lived in Bama still, I would vote for him over Sessions just because we need new blood.. Sessions is a good man, I used to work for him but it's time for a change
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Sessions was treated horribly by Trump.
 
snowlover91 said:
I’m not referring to the past investigations, I’m referring to the current allegations and document leaks indicating Obama and his admin were doing some spying on Trump and his campaign. We will have to wait and see what comes of it in the next few weeks to find out.
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But these are the same exact allegations etc that have been investigated for YEARS...….with no real proof or charges on anyone....nothing I am seeing now is really anything new or explosive....
 
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To reopen, Washington state restaurants will have to keep log of customers to aid in contact tracing

On Monday, Gov. Jay Inslee's office released a set of guidelines that restaurants will have to adhere to before they are allowed to reopen for dining room service.
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I’m so glad I don’t live in a state run by idiots. This has turned into just plain stupidity. Ok so cases go up but if deaths don’t for most of population under 80. Which is average age of death from this virus. Then what is the problem? Hopefully everyone knows by now to not go around older population in nursing homes or hospitals. Which hospitals have become barbaric in some states. Not allowing family to see loved ones dying. Such as a friend of mine mom. She has cardiovascular disease. She’s dying but nothing from virus. Yet they can’t see her. Total bs. Amazing people that want to open up economy are called mentally insane yet not allowing people to see loved ones dying is considered humane.
 
"Trump promotes conspiracy theory accusing MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough of murder"

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Trump promotes conspiracy theory accusing MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough of murder

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"Klausutis’ autopsy revealed she had an undiagnosed heart condition, and a coroner concluded she died after passing out and hitting her head in a fall, according to the Associated Press. She was not struck by another person, the coroner said, and Scarborough was in Washington at the time of her death.

Trump has previously floated the conspiracy theory that the former congressman and current MSNBC personality was involved in Klausutis’ death, tweeting last Monday that the Comcast Corporation “should open up a long overdue Florida Cold Case against Psycho Joe Scarborough."
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Is Trump for real? More diversion tactics? I'm starting to believe more and more that a large portion of Trump supporters here and everywhere would still support him if he murdered someone, especially if that person were a liberal. Even multiple murders.
 
Trump needs to be defeated!!! I place him way below the level of a jerk as "jerk" does not do him justice. If socialist Sanders were to replace Biden, I'm nearly to the point of holding my nose and voting for him only to get the jerk out.
 
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Nightmare at sea ends in death for some cruise ship workers

Recent deaths of crew have underscored concern about the mental health of more than 90,000 cruise workers stranded on ships for two months
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Well guess media is more focused on cases and deaths from virus than what these people are going thru. As some would say on here. To bad for your emotional stress and depression. Those that jumped over board did not care about saving lives anyway. Just remember your losing your mind but saving lives.
 
From a journalist that wants Trump to lose, here he looks at the BS efforts to get rid of Trump. Also some interesting comments from Trey Gowdy. This is from Tucker"s show last night so if you're allergic to him, don't watch. Time period in video is from 9:30-12;15 ish.
 
I’n my opinion whoever votes Biden over Trump is simply not American! Biden actually believes china are good folks. I’m sorry but if we get president Biden it wouldn’t surprise me if China sees a weakness and invades the United States.


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Jessy89 said:
I’n my opinion whoever votes Biden over Trump is simply not American! Biden actually believes china are good folks. I’m sorry but if we get president Biden it wouldn’t surprise me if China sees a weakness and invades the United States.


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You guys crack me up....the first bolded is just ridiculous and well luckily you don't get to decide what is or is not acting or being a American..., just a hint but thinking the way you do about people voting for Biden is about the most non American thing I have read today....

China CANT invade the United States.....even if they wanted too. This kind of woes me posting about if Biden becomes president is hilarious.....
 
Downeastnc said:
You guys crack me up....the first bolded is just ridiculous and well luckily you don't get to decide what is or is not acting or being a American..., just a hint but thinking the way you do about people voting for Biden is about the most non American thing I have read today....

China CANT invade the United States.....even if they wanted too. This kind of woes me posting about if Biden becomes president is hilarious.....
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The guy can’t even remember what he says one moment to the next. Plus any candidate that supports illegals are simply selling out this country. I mean could you imagine a country ran by Biden Pelosi shumer Schiff? Sounds like a nightmare to me.


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Jessy89 said:
The guy can’t even remember what he says one moment to the next. Plus any candidate that supports illegals are simply selling out this country. I mean could you imagine a country ran by Biden Pelosi shumer Schiff? Sounds like a nightmare to me.


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At least Biden.....correction.....At least no other candidate in history has asked for the injection of disinfectants to be considered for a treatment of a virus. And then doubled down by lying that he was sarcastically answering a press question when he said that even though he wasn’t and actually was looking to his right at Dr. Birx, whose facial expression was priceless. I hope the Biden campaign lets Trump have it over and over with that priceless gem. Trump needs to go.
 
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At least Biden.....correction.....At least no other candidate in history has asked for the injection of disinfectants to be considered for a treatment of a virus. And then doubled down by lying that he was sarcastically answering a press question when he said that even though he wasn’t and actually was looking to his right at Dr. Birx, whose facial expression was priceless. I hope the Biden campaign lets Trump have it over and over with that priceless gem. Trump needs to go.
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"Don't eat the brown acid" ... :eek:
 
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