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Some things I lost to cdiff are orange juice, milk and alchohol. Since I had it those things turn my stomach in knots so I avoid them now.

Shingles suck too. Had them on my head and face and those jokers hurt like hell too.
They sure as hell do. True punishment. I had the belt on my back to under are to middle of chest. Those things can blind one if get in eyes.
 
I've largely quit arguing on my hunting forum because there is ZERO proof you can provide them that will change their minds...ZERO.

The fact there is a sizable fraction of our population that believes this is all an attempt to win the election in 2020 is troubling. All these countless lives people have sacrificed even non-Americans just to get their one guy.

I use to be thankful stupidity wasnt contagious.....but then the internet said hold my beer!
I don’t think it has anything to do with deliberate in the US. I do believe China is behind it to damage America and Trump. They were pissed because of him standing up to their trade policies. China I get feeling is eventually going to turn this into a world war.
 
The thing is that this guy is actually an intelligent scientist (pro-met)! He's no dummy! He also thinks the climate issue is way overblown and he thinks GW to this point has actually been beneficial overall. One thing he points out is the increased crop yields/greening of the globe.

He's not a typical conservative by any means. I'm not even sure he's a conservative. He claims to have voted for Obama and mostly Democrats in the past! But he's an ardent Trump supporter who points out over and over that the entire MSM is just out to get him with fake news. He thinks that Trump did no wrong with regard to getting Russian help as well as in regard to Ukraine/impeachment issue.

I do agree with him that much of the MSM is biased against Trump. But where we differ is that I think Trump has asked for a lot of it with his behavior.

Its a trump thing man I'm telling you. Its all a conspiracy to get trump. Anyone who is a trump supporter will deflect the major issues with virus, GW or anything else trump is against they HAVE to be too. Heres a post of the people I deal with on my hunting forum.
 

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The thing is that this guy is actually an intelligent scientist (pro-met)! He's no dummy! He also thinks the climate issue is way overblown and he thinks GW to this point has actually been beneficial overall. One thing he points out is the increased crop yields/greening of the globe.

He's not a typical conservative by any means. I'm not even sure he's a conservative. He claims to have voted for Obama and mostly Democrats in the past! But he's an ardent Trump supporter who points out over and over that the entire MSM is just out to get him with fake news. He thinks that Trump did no wrong with regard to getting Russian help as well as in regard to Ukraine/impeachment issue.

I do agree with him that much of the MSM is biased against Trump. But where we differ is that I think Trump has asked for a lot of it with his behavior.
An expert in one field is not necessarily an expert in others. Even a meteorologist is not necessarily an expert on climate.
In any case, if he really believe Trump did nothing wrong regarding Russia/Ukraine etc., I think that undermines the veracity of his other claims.
 
Its a trump thing man I'm telling you. Its all a conspiracy to get trump. Anyone who is a trump supporter will deflect the major issues with virus, GW or anything else trump is against they HAVE to be too. Heres a post of the people I deal with on my hunting forum.
That’s not true that all who support Trump believe this. Like I said it’s China and if it was truly on purpose or a mistake let out of lab.
 
I've largely quit arguing on my hunting forum because there is ZERO proof you can provide them that will change their minds...ZERO.

The fact there is a sizable fraction of our population that believes this is all an attempt to win the election in 2020 is troubling. All these countless lives people have sacrificed even non-Americans just to get their one guy.

I use to be thankful stupidity wasnt contagious.....but then the internet said hold my beer!
Who has been sacrificed just to get Trump in office? He was voted in because of believing he was best for country. Hillary would have been a complete disaster. We would be under martial law if she was potus. So Trump or Hillary. Easy choice in my mind. Same with Trump or Biden. Another easy choice. In other words no matter which we pick both are not going to bring unity. Democrats are liberals these days in politics. They want socialism.
 
Who has been sacrificed just to get Trump in office? He was voted in because of believing he was best for country. Hillary would have been a complete disaster. We would be under martial law if she was potus. So Trump or Hillary. Easy choice in my mind. Same with Trump or Biden. Another easy choice. In other words no matter which we pick both are not going to bring unity. Democrats are liberals these days in politics. They want socialism.

There is an analogy to this I cant share on the open forum but this mindset of lesser of two evil will ALWAYS get you 2 evils.
 
An expert in one field is not necessarily an expert in others. Even a meteorologist is not necessarily an expert on climate.
In any case, if he really believe Trump did nothing wrong regarding Russia/Ukraine etc., I think that undermines the veracity of his other claims.

Well, regarding climate change, I do think he has a valid point with regard to more greening/higher yields due to more CO2 (plant food) and longer growing seasons/warmer further north. But he's also minimizing the negative impact of higher sea levels, which I don't agree with him on.

Regarding Russia/Trump, he's taking the Mueller Report and saying that it means he didn't collude nor obstruct justice. I agree that it wasn't able to prove collusion (innocent until proven guilty) but I think it is much more nebulous about the chance he obstructed justice.

Regarding Ukraine, he has insisted Schiff is corrupt and a liar and that he's in trouble now. I told him that I thought Schiff presented his argument well with the list of 10 items that I posted here and there even realizing that Schiff is very biased against Trump.

Our country is a big mess!
 
Well, regarding climate change, I do think he has a valid point with regard to more greening/higher yields due to more CO2 (plant food) and longer growing seasons/warmer further north. But he's also minimizing the negative impact of higher sea levels, which I don't agree with him on.

Regarding Russia/Trump, he's taking the Mueller Report and saying that it means he didn't collude nor obstruct justice. I agree that it wasn't able to prove collusion (innocent until proven guilty) but I think it is much more nebulous about the chance he obstructed justice.

Regarding Ukraine, he has insisted Schiff is corrupt and a liar and that he's in trouble now. I told him that I thought Schiff presented his argument well with the list of 10 items that I posted here and there even realizing that Schiff is very biased against Trump.

the next time he says Schiff is a liar in regards to the Ukraine impeachment ask him why Lamar Alexander and all the other senators all agreed not to seek more witnesses because Schiff proved what he set out to prove and that did what was claimed.
 
the next time he says Schiff is a liar in regards to the Ukraine impeachment ask him why Lamar Alexander and all the other senators all agreed not to seek more witnesses because Schiff proved what he set out to prove and that did what was claimed.

Good idea. He also think Biden is corrupt as heck with regard to Hunter/nepotism. Well, I agree that that needs to be investigated and it may end up keeping me from voting for him. But where he and others are wrong imo is that Biden calling for that Ukrainian to be replaced does not appear to be because he was going to investigate Hunter's company more closely unless I'm mistaken. Wasn't that guy corrupt, himself, and not doing his job?
 
Good idea. He also think Biden is corrupt as heck with regard to Hunter/nepotism. Well, I agree that that needs to be investigated and it may end up keeping me from voting for him. But where he and others are wrong imo is that Biden calling for that Ukrainian to be replaced does not appear to be because he was going to investigate Hunter's company more closely unless I'm mistaken. Wasn't that guy corrupt, himself, and not doing his job?

Yes. He was being pushed out because he WAS NOT investigating enough. There was a letter sent by the Ukraine delegation from the senate asking for his removal. It was led by a Rep Portman from kentucky a Republican. He also came out during the impeachment to correct the record on why they were pushing to oust the prosecutor.
 
There is an analogy to this I cant share on the open forum but this mindset of lesser of two evil will ALWAYS get you 2 evils.
I understand but voting for someone that has absolutely no chance to win to me is a waste of a vote. If I’m going to vote for someone that has no chance whatsoever to win. Then I will pass wasting my time.
 
I understand but voting for someone that has absolutely no chance to win to me is a waste of a vote. If I’m going to vote for someone that has no chance whatsoever to win. Then I will pass wasting my time.

Let me offer a different perspective on this.

You say its wasting my time and vote. How many years are we going to deal with the lesser of 2 evils kicking the can and wasting OUR time?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. How many times do we have to pull the lever for the lesser of 2 evils while they waste our time and our money and take more power?
 
Let me offer a different perspective on this.

You say its wasting my time and vote. How many years are we going to deal with the lesser of 2 evils kicking the can and wasting OUR time?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. How many times do we have to pull the lever for the lesser of 2 evils while they waste our time and our money and take more power?
Until someone that has millions of dollars and sells their soul to win then it’s going to be same thing over and over. Lesser of 2 evils. Term limits could change the future maybe.
 
Until someone that has millions of dollars and sells their soul to win then it’s going to be same thing over and over. Lesser of 2 evils. Term limits could change the future maybe.

It doesn't have as much to do with the candidate as it does the voter. Not enough voters from either party wantto grow big enough stones to walk away from their parties BS. So as the parties become more extreme those voters tag along all the while wanting better but not doing anything about it.

Sheep? You want to talk about sheep that's the people still believing 2 party system is the only way to go.
 
Does not surprise me. The liberals and media want everyone to live In fear. To be snitches and tell on neighbors. First it was 2 million then wear a mask. Oh wait a mask don’t work. Then it was 250k would die. Then back to wearing a mask. Then could get virus passing gas. Then it was better arrest and beat people not doing social distancing. Now it’s 125k could die. Oh and now it passes thru eyes. So next is everyone better wear face shields. On and on and on the goal posts keep changing. Yes this virus can be deadly like any virus can be to certain people. I’m over it like so many others. Just live and be smart and safe.
 
Of course it’s always Trumps fault. She’s a pos mayor. She needs to look inside her own DA and law enforcement. What they did was wrong but .....
obviously now it’s showing the young man was not so innocent after all. Video of him on construction sight breaking in. Carrying a hammer on a jog? Please. He was not some innocent young man. Plus now video shows they kept asking him to stop that police were on way. Yes they should have let him go took pics of him and given to police. Both were wrong and up to no good.
Lebron with his typical pos mouth. Lebron you are a great player but will never be as great and loved as Jordan or Bryant. Jordan & Bryant respected everyone. They never ran their mouths. Zion is the next great like Jordan and Bryant. Lebron will be just great nothing more.
 
Does not surprise me. The liberals and media want everyone to live In fear. To be snitches and tell on neighbors. First it was 2 million then wear a mask. Oh wait a mask don’t work. Then it was 250k would die. Then back to wearing a mask. Then could get virus passing gas. Then it was better arrest and beat people not doing social distancing. Now it’s 125k could die. Oh and now it passes thru eyes. So next is everyone better wear face shields. On and on and on the goal posts keep changing. Yes this virus can be deadly like any virus can be to certain people. I’m over it like so many others. Just live and be smart and safe.

Just live unless you die then oh well sorry.
 
To @Shaggy and others:

From that other BB, here is what one of the three I've talked about just said:

"I will make the bold statement that this year, nobody, not even the CDC, can tell you how many lives were lost to the flu

Why do I make this statement?

Because hospital doctors across the US were ordered to call all hospital deaths a Covid19death, whether Covid19 was involved or not. This fact has been proven by at least one published document from one state’s department of health, as well as by the verbal admissions of numerous doctors across the country.

"There is no doubt in my mind that, since mid-March, almost every flu death was listed as a Covid19 death for the official records.

"So, today, we are looking at 79,000 Covid19 deaths in the USA. How many of these deaths are actually flu deaths? 10,000? 20,000? 30,000? How does anyone really know, since we are not keeping honest data anymore?

Ironically,not long ago I read a comment by the CDC, stating that this year it was a “mild flu-season”. Well, of course it was…. during the last few weeks every flu death was recorded as a covid19 death."

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From where is he getting the bolded? I think he's getting mislead bigtime, but I'll be open-minded and ask; Could there possibly be any truth to this? By the way, he is still another strong Trump supporter who claims he always voted Democrat/liberal before Trump.
 
To @Shaggy and others:

From that other BB, here is what one of the three I've talked about just said:

"I will make the bold statement that this year, nobody, not even the CDC, can tell you how many lives were lost to the flu

Why do I make this statement?

Because hospital doctors across the US were ordered to call all hospital deaths a Covid19death, whether Covid19 was involved or not. This fact has been proven by at least one published document from one state’s department of health, as well as by the verbal admissions of numerous doctors across the country.

"There is no doubt in my mind that, since mid-March, almost every flu death was listed as a Covid19 death for the official records.

"So, today, we are looking at 79,000 Covid19 deaths in the USA. How many of these deaths are actually flu deaths? 10,000? 20,000? 30,000? How does anyone really know, since we are not keeping honest data anymore?

Ironically,not long ago I read a comment by the CDC, stating that this year it was a “mild flu-season”. Well, of course it was…. during the last few weeks every flu death was recorded as a covid19 death."

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From where is he getting the bolded? I think he's getting mislead bigtime, but I'll be open-minded and ask; Could there possibly be any truth to this? By the way, he is still another strong Trump supporter who claims he always voted Democrat/liberal before Trump.
I don’t know that is true since March. It has been proven and told by people I know in the medical field from Nursing to RT to medical filing and insurance. They have counted many deaths from the virus that were not. Some were also counted as virus because they had it and had no symptoms. Such as the stroke patient who no one knew she had the virus till after the stroke and she was dead. I’m sure people die of medical conditions all the time but are classified as from the flu or medicine they were on. To me I would say the numbers are inflated a lot. Hospitals are getting money for virus deaths at this time. Sad but it’s govt. always lying about something. I had a medical records and insurance friend tell me yesterday almost all deaths except gun shots and vehicle accident deaths are counted as virus at this time. Even wo testing. Money talks.
 
Just live unless you die then oh well sorry.
Yep. Because you could die tomorrow from many things. More likely from something other than this virus. When flu season comes around make sure to stay inside shaggy. Oh well if you are homeless, poverty, hungry, and want to commit suicide. Shaggy wants to remind you. Your saving a life!
 
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I don’t know that is true since March. It has been proven and told by people I know in the medical field from Nursing to RT to medical filing and insurance. They have counted many deaths from the virus that were not. Some were also counted as virus because they had it and had no symptoms. Such as the stroke patient who no one knew she had the virus till after the stroke and she was dead. I’m sure people die of medical conditions all the time but are classified as from the flu or medicine they were on. To me I would say the numbers are inflated a lot. Hospitals are getting money for virus deaths at this time. Sad but it’s govt. always lying about something. I had a medical records and insurance friend tell me yesterday almost all deaths except gun shots and vehicle accident deaths are counted as virus at this time. Even wo testing. Money talks.

Why do you believe these things? I can prove this entire premise 100% false right now. Heres the local Obituaries for my area only going back to May 1st.......its over 40 people and yet my local area only has 2 covid deaths.

Anyone telling you all deaths except gunshots and car accidents are being attributed to covid are full of it.

 
Why do you believe these things? I can prove this entire premise 100% false right now. Heres the local Obituaries for my area only going back to May 1st.......its over 40 people and yet my local area only has 2 covid deaths.

Anyone telling you all deaths except gunshots and car accidents are being attributed to covid are full of it.

Well two of my family members work in hospitals. One friend is in medical records. Another is a nurse friend in a hospital. So I don’t think they would be just saying these things. Plus there was the article of the head of the hospital in Minnesota that said the hospitals get paid for virus deaths. So take it for what it’s worth. I know 5 people have had it and all recovered fine. So looking at this board and other boards. Some have had it on here. No one seriously ill. All around our community and where I work. Some have had it no deaths. So there is that also. Yes NY had it bad it seems but all these meat plants, Amazon, Lowe’s, Walmart, and grocery stores. Yes some get it but I see the proof that not everyone is dropping dead from this virus. I see that 98-99% survive and are fine. I see hospitals laying people off and not over run. So yes I’m skeptical of all the media is reporting.
 
Who has been sacrificed just to get Trump in office? He was voted in because of believing he was best for country. Hillary would have been a complete disaster. We would be under martial law if she was potus. So Trump or Hillary. Easy choice in my mind. Same with Trump or Biden. Another easy choice. In other words no matter which we pick both are not going to bring unity. Democrats are liberals these days in politics. They want socialism.
If you think the majority of current elected Democratic Party politicians are liberal, or even left, I've got beachfront property in Kansas you may be interested in.

But seriously, we already have many policies that are socialist in nature that most Americans would hate to see go away. Unfortunately we have even more that socialize the failures and privatize the gains of some business ventures. We might as well have socialist policies that benefit the common man.
 
Well two of my family members work in hospitals. One friend is in medical records. Another is a nurse friend in a hospital. So I don’t think they would be just saying these things. Plus there was the article of the head of the hospital in Minnesota that said the hospitals get paid for virus deaths. So take it for what it’s worth. I know 5 people have had it and all recovered fine. So looking at this board and other boards. Some have had it on here. No one seriously ill. All around our community and where I work. Some have had it no deaths. So there is that also. Yes NY had it bad it seems but all these meat plants, Amazon, Lowe’s, Walmart, and grocery stores. Yes some get it but I see the proof that not everyone is dropping dead from this virus. I see that 98-99% survive and are fine. I see hospitals laying people off and not over run. So yes I’m skeptical of all the media is reporting.

I just gave you proof positive that this narrative of everyone dying is being listed as covid is BS. Its not true and it doesnt matter what the media says I just showed you in black and white.
 
Well two of my family members work in hospitals. One friend is in medical records. Another is a nurse friend in a hospital. So I don’t think they would be just saying these things. Plus there was the article of the head of the hospital in Minnesota that said the hospitals get paid for virus deaths. So take it for what it’s worth. I know 5 people have had it and all recovered fine. So looking at this board and other boards. Some have had it on here. No one seriously ill. All around our community and where I work. Some have had it no deaths. So there is that also. Yes NY had it bad it seems but all these meat plants, Amazon, Lowe’s, Walmart, and grocery stores. Yes some get it but I see the proof that not everyone is dropping dead from this virus. I see that 98-99% survive and are fine. I see hospitals laying people off and not over run. So yes I’m skeptical of all the media is reporting.
Cuomo said today Kentucky gets paid more per covid patient than NY.
 
Of course it’s always Trumps fault. She’s a pos mayor. She needs to look inside her own DA and law enforcement. What they did was wrong but .....
obviously now it’s showing the young man was not so innocent after all. Video of him on construction sight breaking in. Carrying a hammer on a jog? Please. He was not some innocent young man. Plus now video shows they kept asking him to stop that police were on way. Yes they should have let him go took pics of him and given to police. Both were wrong and up to no good.
Lebron with his typical pos mouth. Lebron you are a great player but will never be as great and loved as Jordan or Bryant. Jordan & Bryant respected everyone. They never ran their mouths. Zion is the next great like Jordan and Bryant. Lebron will be just great nothing more.
Are you kidding me with this post?
I can't even...what kind of person...
How would any of the garbage you are spewing justify his murder? I have an idea of why you might think so.
Also, please learn geography, she's the mayor of Atlanta, not Brunswick.
 
Are you kidding me with this post?
I can't even...what kind of person...
How would any of the garbage you are spewing justify his murder? I have an idea of why you might think so.
Also, please learn geography, she's the mayor of Atlanta, not Brunswick.

Theres a list of news sites I refuse to use. OANN, mother jones, epoch times, WND are banned. I do t even click on them.
 
Unless the defense can prove that the McMichaels' witnessed a felony to a grand jury, there's not much there that can get them off honestly. It's a case where all 3 may very well have been in the wrong here though. If he was (that's hard to prove without evidence), stealing is a crime (although it's unprovable that they knew it was going on) and taking the law in your own hands is not something that regular citizens should be doing.

Honestly if you're facing good prosecution (the GBI says they're going to thoroughly investigate before taking the case to a grand jury), the smart thing for the McMichaels to do would be to cut a deal that's lower than felony murder (I don't think there's murder 1 and 2 in Georgia, just felony murder), and take manslaughter charges. I'm just not seeing how taking your chances in front of a grand jury is going to work here. Of course I could be wrong, because I'm probably never going to get myself seated on any jury. Who knows what the opinion of the jury will be...

I mean, as it is, the police were prepared to arrest them months ago before the DA (who had a conflict of interest) blocked it.

Also, Arbery may have been stealing but unless you know for sure, being caught on camera in a home under construction is not something that's out of the ordinary. How many of us have walked through homes under construction just to be nosy/look around? It's trespassing, sure, but is it really doing anything if you're just looking around?

Your suspicions in the state of Georgia are not enough to conduct a citizens' arrest.

Somewhat unrelated, but Georgia was going to try to make it legal to brandish a firearm in certain situations. I wonder if this incident is going to slow that down.
 
Unless the defense can prove that the McMichaels' witnessed a felony to a grand jury, there's not much there that can get them off honestly. It's a case where all 3 may very well have been in the wrong here though. If he was (that's hard to prove without evidence), stealing is a crime (although it's unprovable that they knew it was going on) and taking the law in your own hands is not something that regular citizens should be doing.

Honestly if you're facing good prosecution (the GBI says they're going to thoroughly investigate before taking the case to a grand jury), the smart thing for the McMichaels to do would be to cut a deal that's lower than felony murder (I don't think there's murder 1 and 2 in Georgia, just felony murder), and take manslaughter charges. I'm just not seeing how taking your chances in front of a grand jury is going to work here. Of course I could be wrong, because I'm probably never going to get myself seated on any jury. Who knows what the opinion of the jury will be...

I mean, as it is, the police were prepared to arrest them months ago before the DA (who had a conflict of interest) blocked it.

Also, Arbery may have been stealing but unless you know for sure, being caught on camera in a home under construction is not something that's out of the ordinary. How many of us have walked through homes under construction just to be nosy/look around? It's trespassing, sure, but is it really doing anything if you're just looking around?

Your suspicions in the state of Georgia are not enough to conduct a citizens' arrest.

Somewhat unrelated, but Georgia was going to try to make it legal to brandish a firearm in certain situations. I wonder if this incident is going to slow that down.
I still don't understand how they weren't arrested on the spot, before a DA was involved. I just don't understand. IIRC they admitted at the scene the pursued, confronted, and killed him. There is no universe in which there can be any claim of self defense when you are the instigstor. And police would have no more right to kill him than a regular citizen, though many people are somehow okay with this.
I've definitely walked through houses under construction. It's cool to see that stuff.
Also, what could possibly be gained by making it legal to brandish firearms? Any idea on the though process of GA lawmakers there?
 
Well, regarding climate change, I do think he has a valid point with regard to more greening/higher yields due to more CO2 (plant food) and longer growing seasons/warmer further north. But he's also minimizing the negative impact of higher sea levels, which I don't agree with him on.

Regarding Russia/Trump, he's taking the Mueller Report and saying that it means he didn't collude nor obstruct justice. I agree that it wasn't able to prove collusion (innocent until proven guilty) but I think it is much more nebulous about the chance he obstructed justice.

Regarding Ukraine, he has insisted Schiff is corrupt and a liar and that he's in trouble now. I told him that I thought Schiff presented his argument well with the list of 10 items that I posted here and there even realizing that Schiff is very biased against Trump.

Our country is a big mess!
You cant seriously and objectively be buying into the Russian collusion failed coupe anymore? Its fine your against Trump,centrist etc. But no way should anyone get away with trying this again in our country. Care whos in office.
 
Wall Street Journal: Economic Lockdown Is the 'Catastrophe'
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German Intel: China Told WHO to Hide Human-to-Human Coronavirus Transmission in Jan
Natalie Winters
May 10, 2020
4 min read
The Chinese Communist Party forced the World Health Organization (WHO) to refrain from notifying the world about human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus, causing a “four to six-week delay in fighting” the virus, according to Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service.
The recently-released report corroborates the Trump administration’s narrative that China purposely withheld this critical information, delaying the world’s ability to respond: “According to the BND, China has urged the World Health Organization (WHO) to delay a global warning after the outbreak of the virus at the highest level. On January 21, China’s leader Xi Jinping asked WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to hold back information about a human-to-human transmission and to delay a pandemic warning.”
 
You cant seriously and objectively be buying into the Russian collusion failed coupe anymore? Its fine your against Trump,centrist etc. But no way should anyone get away with trying this again in our country. Care whos in office.

I said Trump is innocent of collusion per the Mueller Report.
 
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