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snowlover91 said:
IMO the coronavirus has been hyped to epic proportions by the news media and this in part is probably why governments across the Globe have been responding the way they have. If the news media hypes something and makes it seem bad then the people of that country will be in fear and want their leaders to do something about it. Fear is a powerful weapon and imo that's probably more the motivation behind the strong global response we've seen more than actual evidence of this being something extremely concerning. Assuming the death toll and sick rates are accurate, we have a mortality rate of around 2% in China which isn't that bad and in developed nations like the US would likely be significantly less. I think this is a lot of media hype and in a few weeks it will die down as people realize it's not as bad as feared.
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I think from what I've seen the 2% mortality rate really only applies in Wohan and is much less in all other areas of China. Now they could be lying about those areas, but we will see.
 
snowlover91 said:
IMO the coronavirus has been hyped to epic proportions by the news media and this in part is probably why governments across the Globe have been responding the way they have. If the news media hypes something and makes it seem bad then the people of that country will be in fear and want their leaders to do something about it. Fear is a powerful weapon and imo that's probably more the motivation behind the strong global response we've seen more than actual evidence of this being something extremely concerning. Assuming the death toll and sick rates are accurate, we have a mortality rate of around 2% in China which isn't that bad and in developed nations like the US would likely be significantly less. I think this is a lot of media hype and in a few weeks it will die down as people realize it's not as bad as feared.
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I hope you're right. I'm just not willing to bet on it.
 
Sandbar said:
It was a great read. Thank you for posting! Im sure the "true conservatives" whatever that means will be along at some point to deny it.....with that being said, I agree that a landslide is coming and a part of that incoming slaughter is due to the smug arrogance and stupidity of the democrat leadership
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One can only hope we have a true Red wave however there are still 9 months until the election..

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LetItSnow said:
One can only hope we have a true Red wave however there are still 9 months until the election..

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Im sure the left is angry. Why im not exactly sure but angry yes. Usually when you are angry and see bright horizon's ahead you feel emboldened to reach for it. Problem is the Democrat party has been run by the same crooks for 30 years. Their answer, the next generation, is a woman who just yesterday proclaimed in frustration thats its physically impossible to lift yourself up by your bootstraps. I met men living in mud huts in Afghanistan that had more common knowledge than these moonbats
 
Sandbar said:
Im sure the left is angry. Why im not exactly sure but angry yes. Usually when you are angry and see bright horizon's ahead you feel emboldened to reach for it. Problem is the Democrat party has been run by the same crooks for 30 years. Their answer, the next generation, is a woman who just yesterday proclaimed in frustration thats its physically impossible to lift yourself up by your bootstraps. I met men living in mud huts in Afghanistan that had more common knowledge than these moonbats
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Some things are completely unexplainable, it's a very strange world these days, the sheer and utter hatred by some on the left is something I'll never understand.
 
I know its Wiki, but I didn't remember the swine flu hitting some places so hard. I wasn't tested for it, but my aunt who works in the ER I went to told me that most of the cases were H1N1 and I likely had it. Really just a big pain in the butt. India took it pretty hard. That is a higher death rate than we are seeing so far in Wohan.

As of 25 October, over 13,000 cases had been confirmed in India, with 444 deaths, starting with a 13-year-old girl's death in the city of Pune, where almost 91 people died.[/quote]
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On the Conovirus. Good discussion. Im in the camp this is not as severe as seasonal flu. Right now thats where I stand. If the figures are right then mortality rate verse infection rate is way lower so far it appears. But like RC said, its hard to really know or have faith in the info that China releases.
Has anyone heard about how long, severe the effects are on average. Bad flu is rough first 72 hours,then you slowly start getting the upoer hand and spend days 4 through 7 ridding your body of it, hangover phase. Is Conovirus the same, aches ,respiratory, high fever first 3 days,then it starts subsiding? How long are you contagious?
 
I apologize for not being able to post links right now.
Conovirus official dearh toll over 900, 40,000 infected. 1 in 40 mortality rate.

However just read a disturbing whistleblower account est of 50,000 dead. On top of a journalist whos suposedly been quarentined since Thurs despite not being sick.
 
NCSNOW said:
I apologize for not being able to post links right now.
Conovirus official dearh toll over 900, 40,000 infected. 1 in 40 mortality rate.

However just read a disturbing whistleblower account est of 50,000 dead. On top of a journalist whos suposedly been quarentined since Thurs despite not being sick.
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I highly doubt the second part. Sounds very conspiracy-linked and probably a bad source.
 
Problem solved. Heres link.

Billionaire Whistleblower: Wuhan Coronavirus Death Toll Is Over 50,000. ... A billionaire whistleblower alleges Wuhan has crematoriums working 24/7. He claims they've cremated some 50,000 coronavirus victims. Guo Wengui is a Chinese billionaire living in exile in the United States.11 hours ago
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Billionaire Whistleblower: Wuhan Coronavirus Death Toll Is Over 50,000 - CCN.com
 
NCSNOW said:
Problem solved. Heres link.

Billionaire Whistleblower: Wuhan Coronavirus Death Toll Is Over 50,000. ... A billionaire whistleblower alleges Wuhan has crematoriums working 24/7. He claims they've cremated some 50,000 coronavirus victims. Guo Wengui is a Chinese billionaire living in exile in the United States.11 hours ago
CCN.com › billionaire-whistlebl...
Billionaire Whistleblower: Wuhan Coronavirus Death Toll Is Over 50,000 - CCN.com
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Had a look at their "site" and it's bad news. I wouldn't use it as a reliable source.
 
ForsythSnow said:
I highly doubt the second part. Sounds very conspiracy-linked and probably a bad source.
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Agree. Hopeful,but that thought in back of mind Communist Govt, always prevents total dismissal until someone comes along and debumks. Which I imagine they will.

Anyway 1 in 40 death rate is bad enogh imo. What is seasonal flu on avg?
 
In 2019 in US there where 19 million cases of flu. With 10,000 deaths. Someone do math, what is that like 1 death out of every 19,000 cases?
 
NCSNOW said:
In 2019 in US there where 19 million cases of flu. With 10,000 deaths. Someone do math, what is that like 1 death out of every 19,000 cases?
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~1 in 2000. Like most things, I think there is more hype than reality when it comes to this virus. Conspiracy sites love it though. Whatever gets more clicks I guess.
 
Per this article

“1. The CDC estimates flu has caused 22 million illnesses, 210,000 hospitalizations and 12,000 deaths this season.

2. The mortality rate attributed to flu and pneumonia was 7.1 percent for the week ending Feb. 1, which falls below the epidemic threshold of 7.2 percent.”
 
NCSNOW said:
Agree. Hopeful,but that thought in back of mind Communist Govt, always prevents total dismissal until someone comes along and debumks. Which I imagine they will.

Anyway 1 in 40 death rate is bad enogh imo. What is seasonal flu on avg?
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The issue with the 1 in 40 rate is that it is just in Hubei, not in the rest of China and definitely not in the rest of the world where the only two deaths are in the Philippines and Hong Kong where both had bad pre-existing conditions. As I said the other day, if most of the cases on that cruise ship are minor, the air goes out if this quickly and the eye of the world bores into China, but if we see major problems then the whole world may have a problem on its hands.

What is sad though, I feel China has pretty much left Wohan to burn. Probably offering "medical care" with doctors but little in the way of medicine or life saving measures. If you live, you live if you die you die.
 
Arcc said:
The issue with the 1 in 40 rate is that it is just in Hubei, not in the rest of China and definitely not in the rest of the world where the only two deaths are in the Philippines and Hong Kong where both had bad pre-existing conditions. As I said the other day, if most of the cases on that cruise ship are minor, the air goes out if this quickly and the eye of the world bores into China, but if we see major problems then the whole world may have a problem on its hands.

What is sad though, I feel China has pretty much left Wohan to burn. Probably offering "medical care" with doctors but little in the way of medicine or life saving measures. If you live, you live if you die you die.
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Yep; we need to see what happens on the cruise ship; a bit strange you'd keep that many people confined on a ship when they can be notorious breeding grounds.

The huge unknown has been and continues to be what's really happening in China; "official" counts are more than likely bogus; so what's really going on there is anybody's guess who's not on the ground.
 
Speaking of the cruise ship, it sounds like despite the quarantine the Coronavirus is spreading.

“Japan may test every person aboard the Diamond Princess for the coronavirus after it was determined Monday that there were 66 new cases on the quarantined ship docked at a Yokohama port.”

www.foxnews.com

Coronavirus infects 66 more passengers on Diamond Princess, bringing total to 130

Japan is considering testing every person on the Diamond Princess after it was determined Monday that there were 60 new cases aboard the quarantined ship docked off the coast of Yokohama.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
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